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Multinationals can 'choose where their profits are based'

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HMRC chief exec Lin Homer admitted yesterday that there was little the tax authority could do to stop big firms like Amazon, Google, Facebook and Starbucks moving their profits abroad to avoid tax.

Homer told MPs on the Public Accounts Committee that it was up to multinationals where they were headquartered and where certain parts of their business were.

“All HMRC can do is to apply the laws and what I am acknowledging is that in an international setting, multinational businesses can choose to some extent where some parts of their business are based and they can choose where some of their profits are based,” she said.

But just as she was defending UK policy on tax evasion, Chancellor George Osborne was releasing a joint statement with German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble calling for international action to strengthen tax standards.

Major multinationals have been accused of declaring UK profits in other countries where tax rates are lower and using artificially high costs, like royalties for intellectual property or brand franchises, to reflect a lack of profit in Britain. Starbucks has paid no corporation tax in the UK for the last three years while Apple is paying less than 2 per cent tax on all its overseas profit.

The committee called Homer and some of her HMRC colleagues to face questioning and explain how international companies were getting away with paying so little.

Members of the committee pushed Homer to address more specific examples without naming names, since Starbucks, Amazon and Google have been invited to make their own cases in front of the same committee.

Conservative MP Richard Bacon said that people could understand the cost of coffee, the price of sandwiches, how much rent is and the cost of employees, but they couldn't understand how those costs cancelled out all profits.

Homer tried to answer Bacon with an example about scientific intellectual property but he demanded a more relevant example. Homer insisted however that IP was IP.

"One of the interesting challenges, is that if the IP that we're talking about in the area we're talking about - coffee and sandwiches - wasn't worth anything, people wouldn't pay for it, it's a market-led value," she said.

But Labour MP Margaret Hodge, chairing the committee, countered that if KFC and McDonald's paid UK tax, "the one we're not allowed to talk about" should too.

Homer said it was up to the committee to talk to individual companies about their specific tax issues.

It wasn't just one company they were talking about, Hodge pointed out, but a whole list of international firms including Intel, Kraft, Ikea, Coca-Cola and Asda. She accused HMRC of being unable to get enough information out of companies to assess whether they were avoiding tax or not.

But Homer stuck to her guns, saying once again that HMRC could only follow the law and that the international firms could choose where to base their business.

However, Chancellor George Osborne was saying at the same time that Britain and Germany wanted to strengthen international standards for corporate tax regimes.

"International tax standards have had difficulty keeping up with changes in global business practices, such as the development of e-commerce in commercial activities," the joint statement said. "As a result, some multi-national businesses are able to shift the taxation of their profits away from the jurisdictions where they are being generated, thus minimising their tax payments compared to smaller, less international companies."

Osborne and Schäuble said they'd called on their G20 colleagues to back the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development in looking for gaps in current standards "as a first step" to a "better way of dealing with profit shifting and erosion of the corporate tax base at the global level".

Recent financial results from Google, Starbucks, Amazon, Apple and Facebook have caused public outcry about how foreign companies invited to do business in Britain appear to evade taxes while their local competitors pay up.

The Public Accounts Committee has called on Google, Starbucks and Amazon to appear before it next Monday for questioning, although it's still unclear which representatives of the companies will be answering the summons. ®

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Fair play to them

You do know that every penny they move offshore increases your tax bill don't you?

Sticking it to the man is one thing, sticking it to the man by shitting in your own shoes is just stupid

What they are doing may be ok in a legal sense but it is certainly morally wrong

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So cancel corporation tax

and double VAT. Or something similar

Seems logical that the tax should be paid in the country where the product is delivered.

(Standing by for thumbs down.)

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Sales are income to corps, so what about salary.

So,

Why can't I have my salary paid into a country of my choice and avoid paying (or pay a lower rate) income tax? If corps are allowed to take their earnings, move it to another country and pay tax there, why can't I take my salary to another country and pay tax there? As always, one rule for corps and one for the little people.

Jimmy Carr was vilified by the PM no less for using a mechanism that until recently was completely legal to avoid tax in much the same way the corps are. Of course, they'ev now implemented a law that basically says any mechanism created solely with the purpose to avoid tax is illegal, which effectively makes that sort of thing illegal. However, if moving your money to another country to pay tax there and not here is not a mechanism created solely with the purpose to avoid tax, what is it? Seems like the politicians are only worried about dodging tax when it's people and not when it's corps.

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