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Virtual geek Chad Sakac talks SDNs, Oracle's Xsigo, CloudFoundry and more...

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It's another enterprise and techcast with Greg Knieriemen, Ed Saipetch and Sarah Vela. This week, your hosts are grilling a special guest: EMC's Chad Sakac. Last night they spoke to the storage guru, prolific blogger and virtual geek – who become a senior veep at EMC in January – about his promotion and new responsibilities, Oracle buying Xsigo, what's up with VMware, virtual servers and more. It's a good one, so just press play...

Oracle buys Xsigo

  • Oracle's PR spins Xsigo as Software Defined Networking (SDN);
  • Chad: “Sorry Oracle, Xsigo IS NOT Software Defined Networking”; and
  • why it looks like a reaction to VMware buying Nicira.

VMware’s boldest move yet

  • The advent of virtual networking – with virtual servers combined with vSphere’s storage virtualisation
  • VMware is building the complete virtual stack
  • How does the landscape change now for VMware, EMC and their competitors?
  • Enterprise deployment of SDNs
  • How do EMC and VMware keep the VMware lovefest going?

Big changes at EMC and VMware

  • EMC’s President Pat Gelsinger is now the CEO of VMware and Paul Maritz is vice chairman at EMC
  • How does Gelsinger manage VMware’s ecosystem partners having come directly from EMC?
  • What’s next for CloudFoundry?

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I assume the commoditization comments were...

to comfort their former partner Cisco. SDN will absolutely commoditize network gear. Cisco never had any great advantages at the hardware level over the bulk of other networking companies, but their IOS and management tools were so ubiquitous that Cisco = networking. Remove the control panel from Cisco and allow intermixing of gear and there is no reason to pay 2x the price for a 10g interconnect (or whatever). SDN was a very good buy for VMware. Their gains will be at Cisco's expense.

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Re: What was with the mainframe comment?

"Mainframe software is costly, the z/OS, CICS, etc licenses."

PS - You do not need to use any of this software with System z running Linux. You would use the z/VM, mainframe hypervisor, which is markedly better than VMware (takes basically no management overhead), and then SLES or RHEL on top of the z IFL (integrated facility for linux, a specialty processor optimized for linux). No need to buy and spend time setting up clustering software, it has sysplex baked into the system. Not only is mainframe not more costly, but I would be amazed if it is not considerably less costly in scale after all of the x86 software has been added.

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Re: What was with the mainframe comment?

"With public cloud venders like Amazon, you can’t do this, so you’re stuck with that one public cloud without the ability to move workloads from private to public and visa-versa along with separate management of public and private workloads."

I guess the comment makes more sense given that definition. Everyone has these self-serving definitions of the cloud. For VMware, the cloud = virtualization, specifically buying more VMware licenses.... If VMware wants to create the ability to Vmotion workload from private to public, they are going to have to build their own public cloud. None of the major cloud providers are going to want to pay VMware licensing rates when they can get KVM or Xen for free and have the skills to maintain them. I can't imagine any public cloud, or large scale service provider (Google, Yahoo, etc) would use VMware. They would be uncompetitive, from a pricing perspective, with those that use open source.

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