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Renault Zoe ZE

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Between them, Renault and Nissan have poured plenty of cash into their respective and combined EV programmes, and of the five models thus spawned it’s the little Renault Zoe that seems most likely to bring home the sales bacon. The same size as a Clio but with the swappable battery system used in the Renault Fluence ZE, it will also come with an 80-per-cent-in-30-minutes charge option like the Nissan Leaf.

Renault Zoe ZE

Renault will be selling the Zoe but leasing the battery pack which means the Zoe will sell for around the £14,000 mark after the Government’s £5000 e-car grant when it goes on sale in Blighty this September. Unlike the Fluence ZE, the Zoe has been designed from the tyres up as an EV so in countries not taking the Better Place shilling, I suspect it will rapidly become the most common electric car on the roads.

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Availability September 2012
Price £14,000
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Smart ED Third Generation

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I drove the second-generation Smart ED back in June 2011, but the new model - the one actually destined for mass-market sales, which will start later this year - is an altogether more impressive bag of tricks. With a larger, 17.6kWh lithium-ion battery pack, a more powerful, 55kW electric motor, and the option to quick charge the new car, the 3G ED will go further faster and spend less time stationary before you can start your next trip.

Smart ED Third Generation

In Germany, the ED will be sold for around €16,000 (£13,410) while the battery pack will leased for around €60 (£50) per month. Those prices don’t take into account any local government grants, so the Smart should still work out a fair bit cheaper than the Renault Zoe in the UK. Just as well; it’s a much smaller car. That won’t bother Renault because it has the freaky little Twizy urban-EV up it’s sleeve which will be cheaper yet.

Reg Rating 80%
Availability Winter 2012
Price TBC, approx £8500
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Curb side charging posts? Paid for by who? In what timescale?

You're talking about digging up *every* street in the UK, adding a power infrastructure (the current one just won't cut it for mass deployment of something like an electric car), so more and bigger substations, etc.

Then working out how to charge the correct person when someone else has parked where you were going to (on our street there's only parking for about 75% of the houses so there's a regular shuffling around depending on what time you arrive back).

Adding a petrol station just means getting a sufficiently large area of land, digging a hole for the storage, and building the station on top. It's not even comparable to what would be needed to make electric cars viable.

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Leasing too pricey

Leasing should be the solution to the battery fade problem, but at £50 a month, its about the same price as I'm spending on fuel anyway, which gets rid of the operating cost savings that are supposed to be the ecar's big strength. 2 steps forward, 1 step back, honestly.

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Re: But...

Have you ever seen a car model that fitted everyone's needs?

If you haven't, and I bet you haven't, why are you expecting electric cars to be any different?

These cars will be bought by people who think they fit their needs/wants and they will not be bought by people who don't find them suitable, for example, those who don't have a place to charge them.

But, with any luck, the cars will be improved with time and more of them will be bought, and more charging places will be available and more people will buy them and ....

It won't happen automagically and it will definitely not happen by tomorrow but that doesn't mean it won't happen

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