28th June 2011 Archive
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Facebook reveals next-gen Open Compute wares
Double your servers, double your fun
Facebook's Open Compute Project, founded to open source the social media mogul's server and data center designs, has hosted its first meeting, previewing its next-generation server and storage iron. While a lot of companies give mere lip service to compute density and performance per watt, hyperscale web companies such as …
Servers 28 Jun 00:05
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IBM to snuff last Cell blade server
Six months until HPC shops go on Power, GPU diet
IBM has announced that supporters of IBM's "Cell" family of PowerXCell multicore processors have only another six months to buy more blade servers to build up their systems. January 6, 2012 will be the last day that the BladeCenter QS22 blade servers, the last of three different Cell-based machines, will be available from Big …
Servers 28 Jun 00:27
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US IT spending surge double-times GDP
Turgidity x 2 = 'Whew...'
IT spending in the United States is expected to rise by 5.6 per cent in 2011 – that's nearly twice the pace of the expected growth in US gross domestic product, which is projected to grow by a measly 3 per cent this year. This news, from the wizards at IDC, comes just as IT folks are finishing the first half of their spending …
Business 28 Jun 00:47
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US Supremes to hear warrantless GPS tracking case
Surveillance in the digital age
The US Supreme Court has agreed to decide if the US Constitution requires police to obtain a search warrant before secretly monitoring location-tracking devices planted on the vehicles of suspects Monday's agreement to decide whether the Fourth Amendment bars warrantless GPS tracking of criminal suspects came at the urging of …
Law 28 Jun 01:44
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Facebook fever prices social network at $70bn
We're forever blowing bubbles
Doomsayers who believe the Internet is looking like a bubble again will be out in force, following GSV Capital’s decision to tip $US6.6 million into Facebook. The dollar value is trivially small, but GVC is only buying 225,000 shares, putting a notional valuation of $US70bn on the social network site. Even that number is …
Financial News 28 Jun 01:47
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Apple’s long divorce from Samsung near final
TSMC affair rumored
The strained relationship between Apple and Samsung has moved a step closer to fracturing completely, with a report in the Chinese-language Commercial Times refreshing rumours that TSMC will become Cupertino’s new best friend. According to the report, summarized in Digitimes, a Taipei-based Merryl Lynch analyst Dan Heyler …
PCs & Chips 28 Jun 02:05
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Anonymous claims LulzSec merger
Yet more hacktivist prankster shenanigans promised
Anonymous claims that members of the notorious (recently disbanded) prankster hacking group LulzSec have joined its group. "All @LulzSec members have reported aboard" according to an update to the @AnonymousIRC Twitter account. A later post claimed the move has nothing to do with the recent arrest of an alleged member of …
Crime 28 Jun 04:01
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Google in preemptive strike on Microsoft Office 365
'365 reasons to use Google Apps'
Google Apps product manager Shan Sinha was once director of strategy for Microsoft SharePoint, Redmond's longstanding effort to facilitate business collaboration over the net. Sinha left Microsoft in the fall of 2007 to create DocVerse, a service that bypassed SharePoint, plugging Microsoft Office clients into Google Apps. …
Applications 28 Jun 05:22
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PopBox 3D set-top media player
Review Goggle box
Now that playing digital files from USB keys, or streaming them over a network, is a feature built into many TVs and almost every new gadget that plugs into one, it's inevitable that standalone players will become cheaper. The PopBox sits at the bottom of Syabas Technology’s Popcorn Hour range of media players. PopBox 3D: a …
reghardware 28 Jun 06:00
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Opera 11.50 debuts with Speed Dial extensions
Beyond the thumbnail
Opera has officially released a new version of its desktop browser – Opera 11.50 – adding widget-like "extensions" to the familiar Speed Dial page that appears each time you open a new tab. Previously, Speed Dial only offered thumbnails that linked you to oft-visited sites. But with Opera 11.50 – announced in the early …
Applications 28 Jun 06:22
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Arkeia bigs up sliding windows dedupe
Comment Anything you backup I backup better
Privately-owned Arkeia thinks it's in prime position to backup to the cloud because its dedupe technology is better than anybody else's. Arkeia says its dedupe is up to twice as good as Symantec's Backup Exec 2010. It has a slide (pictured) showing it providing a better than 50 per cent size reduction in Excel documents and …
Storage 28 Jun 08:03
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Accused autistic hacker Ryan Cleary freed on bail
Home to Mum with a tag on his ankle
Ryan Cleary, the alleged hacker behind the attack on Soca's website, has been freed on bail. Cleary denies the charge. He is also accused of using denial of service attacks against websites run by copyright lobbyists the British Phonographic Industry and the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry. The 19-year …
Crime 28 Jun 08:20
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EMC regains SPEC filer crown
I'd like to thank God, my parents, Isilon...
EMC has regained the SPEC filer benchmark crown, and it took 3,220 disk drives to do it. Isilon tested 28-, 56- and 140-node S200 systems, with the last gaining the SPECsfs2008 crown for both NFS and CIFS file access. Isilon scored 1,112,705 NFS operations - 75 per cent higher than the previous best-performing system, a Huawei …
Storage 28 Jun 08:45
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Oracle to overhaul reseller rebates
Channel boss Althoff set to explain all in a con call
Oracle has scheduled a conference call with its stoic reseller base to outline an overhaul of the compensation structure to win over the more disillusioned element in its channel, namely former Sun Microsystems dealers. Hosted by Judson Althoff, veep for worldwide alliances and channels at the US tech monster, the phone …
Channel Register 28 Jun 09:00
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Liam Maxwell appointed to advise on gov ICT
Conservative advisor takes Cabinet Office position for 11 months
Liam Maxwell has been appointed as an advisor to the Efficiency and Reform Group and the government chief information officer on new ideas for the government's use of technology. His work will cover developing new methods of service delivery, increasing the use of open standards and open source software, helping SMEs in the …
Government 28 Jun 09:19
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Apple's MobileMe has a wobble
Users hunt for mail server, answers
MobileMe users are having trouble finding their mail server this morning, though as ever with Apple the scale of the problem remains obscure. Several Reg readers have reported problems accessing MobileMe's email service, with both the web and IMAP access giving error messages. However, others (including Vultures here in the …
Mobile 28 Jun 09:20
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Music on plastic discs still popular, apparently
What's a CD?
Every year the story's the same – but every year it is stranger to report. People continue to buy pre-packaged plastic music discs – most containing as little as one album – despite the rise in digital album sales, the cheaper option of listening on demand, and the risk-free option of downloading entire discographies in one go. …
Music and Media 28 Jun 09:45
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Lightbox Photos
Android App of the Week Snap your status
Socialising your mobile photography is all the rage these days, a picture presumably being worth at least 140 alphanumeric characters, and this is where Lightbox shines, as a simple way to share your pictures with your social network. Camera by Lightbox (left) beefs up the Android camera app, while Lightbox Photos (right) …
reghardware 28 Jun 10:00
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Apple quietly Trims MacBook Air SSDs
Drive performance boost from 10.6.8
Owners of second-gen MacBook Airs have gained much-requested Trim support for the SSDs in their skinny computers thanks to Apple's latest OS X update. The Trim command can be issued to compatible solid-state drives to tell them which data are no longer considered in use and so can be erased by the drive itself. This …
reghardware 28 Jun 10:02
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US Navy invents 'Zero-Power Autonomous' ocean probe
Crafty bacterio-buoyancy underwater podule triumph
US Navy and Marine Corps boffins are chuffed with themselves today, after inventing a crafty underwater probe podule which can be dropped into the sea, sink to a pre-programmed depth, remain there for weeks or months and then at some point rise to the surface again - all without using any electrical power. This last is a good …
Science 28 Jun 10:03
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SEC investigates disgraced Systemax exec
Former reseller bigwig Fiorentino under spotlight
The SEC has launched an investigation into the reasons behind the departure of shamed Systemax exec Gilbert Fiorentino, the company has confirmed. CEO of the technology product group, Fiorentino was suspended from the US reseller - parent of Misco and WStore - in April after an independent probe into whistleblower allegations …
Channel Register 28 Jun 10:17
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Mole maintains iPad 3, iPhone 5 out this year
Busy September for Apple?
Evidence continues to dribble in that Apple is planning to launch not only the iPhone 5 but also a new iPad this year. The iPad was last upgraded as recently as March, but we're hearing from a well-placed source within the UK's biggest satellite broadcaster that a further - presumably pre-Christmas - iPad update is on the …
reghardware 28 Jun 10:27
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Freedoms Bill: Gov may U-turn on personal data and DNA retention
Law and order: Coalition's intent
Following last week's U-turn on prison sentencing, I think there is a possibility that the government could change its approach to the retention of personal data on the DNA database. Ministers are clearly worried that they are being labelled as "soft on law and order", especially by the tabloid press. At last week's Prime …
Law 28 Jun 10:31
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French search engine seeks multi-million euro damages from Google
1plusV pleads with Mountain View to end 'suffocation' of market
A French search engine is demanding damages of €295m from Google, in a legal spat over Mountain View's dominance of the market. 1plusV, a local rival to Google in France, alleged that Mountain View's command of the search engine biz had blocked the development of services offered by competitors in the country. The French …
Music and Media 28 Jun 10:34
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Sony goes slim with the Vaio Z laptop
Gains Media Dock add-on for desktop power
Sony has dressed up its latest supermodel laptop and when it comes to the catwalk of consumer electronics, there are no moral complications in supporting the ultra-skinny. The Sony Vaio Z series follows with this tradition of slimming down, weighing in at less than 1.2kg, with a thickness of 17mm. The 13.1in anti-reflective …
reghardware 28 Jun 10:49
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Office 365: Can Microsoft replace Microsoft?
The desktop roadblock
When it comes to selling new versions of Office, Microsoft's toughest competitor isn't IBM or Google. It's Microsoft. Typically, when Microsoft releases brand new version of its desktop productivity suite, large numbers of customers cling to the versions they already have. The old versions do exactly what they want, and the …
Applications 28 Jun 11:00
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McAfee to wipe mess off .xxx pr0n sites
Free virus scan bundled with new domains
ICM Registry, which plans to start selling .xxx domain names later this year, has inked a deal with McAfee to provide a free daily security scan for every website at a .xxx address. The deal with the Intel-owned security business is worth $8m, according to ICM. McAfee will scan every .xxx domain name every day for security …
Hosting 28 Jun 11:00
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Time to lower the data centre’s temperature
Keep cool with the latest in servers
At first glance the data centre power and cooling equation seems straightforward. More processing power calls for more energy, resulting in a need for costly cooling measures. Dig a little deeper, however, and you find it is nowhere near that simple. There are lots of ways of boosting data centre performance without raising …
Data Centre 28 Jun 11:01
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Cloud storage survey FAIL: May have to, er, back up
Comment Doh! Own numbers show local disk costs plummeting
The self-seeking company-commissioned survey is anathema to all right-thinking people. This is especially so when journos simply repeat its assertions without examining it for bias and agenda. However, when the research conducted by said company actually undermines the very case for the service that the company is trying to …
Storage 28 Jun 11:09
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Visa pushes NFC operator bypass on French
iPhone gets proximity payments in France
Visa is planning trials of microSD-based NFC chips in Nice, working with French bank Groupe BPCE to put payments into the pockets of punters without reference to the network operators. The trial will use iPhone cases containing the NFC radio and antenna, as well as the microSD slot for the secure element, according to NFC …
Mobile 28 Jun 11:15
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Proper scientists: Old folk should drink MORE, not less
UK trick-cyclists' wrinkly booze crackdown slammed
Serious international researchers into the health effects of alcohol have uncompromisingly slammed a recent call by British trick-cyclists for severe restrictions on drinking by elderly people. A report issued earlier this month by the Royal College of Psychiatrists described elderly (over-65) drinkers as society's "invisible …
Biology 28 Jun 11:19
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Royal Mail tells The Register how it's using private cloud
Broadcast Back by public demand: this time it's virtual
Holmes and Watson. Kirk and Spock. The Chuckle Brothers. And now, Steel and Knaresborough. Recently we brought you the feelgood tale "Royal Mail Moves to the Cloud" , in which intrepid Adrian Steel and his trusty sidekick Glyn Knaresborough migrated 30,000 desktops - and lived to tell Reg readers their heartwarming story. They …
Desktop Strategy 28 Jun 11:30
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Eco investors demand (even) more sweeteners for low carbon energy
Help us to help you save Gaia
When Nye Bevan created Britain's National Health Service in 1948 he faced resistance from private consultants – and famously had to "stuff their mouths with gold" to win them over. But at least there was a universal-payer health care system at the end of it. Renewable energy today is a commercial basket case*, and potential …
Government 28 Jun 11:35
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Drunken bust-up woman sprays cops with breast milk
Ohio jub juice bandit faces substantial rack of charges
An Ohio woman is facing a substantial rack of charges after allegedly getting drunk at a wedding reception, assaulting her husband and then spraying cops with breast milk. Stephanie Robinette, 30, (pictured) was cuffed in the early hours of Saturday morning outside a banqueting hall in Westville. Delaware County sheriff's …
Bootnotes 28 Jun 11:42
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Cable & Wireless boss falls on sword
Third profit warning and out
Cable & Wireless head honcho Jim Marsh has quit following the telco's third profit warning in the last year. The telco said sales in the opening 10 weeks of its fiscal 2012, which boost margin growth later in the year, were below forecasts and a skinnier sales pipeline indicated that gross margin would also fall "somewhat" …
Channel Register 28 Jun 11:57
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The Network is the Problem: Barriers to cloud adoption
Reg Research Survey results
How can cloud computing be a sensible option when it makes you so dependent on the network, and often even the public internet? If the comms slow down, the user experience takes a dive. Lose the link completely, and you’re stuffed. We have been hearing such questions and objections from nay-sayers ever since commercial hosted …
Cloud Business 28 Jun 12:00
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Kim Cameron returns to Microsoft as indie ID expert
Keeping his hand in Redmond's cryptography pond
Microsoft's erstwhile chief architect of identity Kim Cameron has resurfaced as an independent adviser to... Microsoft. Cameron reaffirmed in his first blog post since quitting MS that his "work status" had changed at Redmond recently. But it turns out the resignation didn't mean he was altogether abandoning Microsoft. "I did …
Developer 28 Jun 12:06
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MySpace sacks more
More bad news for Murdoch's web grab
The social network everyone used before they found Facebook is expected to sack another 150 staff tomorrow. MySpace still employs 400 people in southern California, but it seems the rumours of slashing jobs has restarted rumours of an imminent buyout for the struggling site. The cuts, confirmed by the Washington Post, acting …
Financial News 28 Jun 12:19
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Brewer bashes Beeb over anti-beer bias
Wine whiners want trad telly tipple
A Cumbria brewer has levelled serious charges against the BBC that it is deliberately ignoring beer in favour of imported plonk. Dave Bailey, of the Hardknott brewery in Millom, reckons the Corporation's foodie output is heavily biased towards wine, and is therefore "deliberately and recklessly damaging the UK economy by its …
Bootnotes 28 Jun 12:24
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Blow to the head makes people feel good about religion
Brain damage, satisfaction and 'higher power' linked
Psychologists in the US report that people who have suffered a serious blow to the head and who have "a sense of connection to a higher power" tend to report feelings of much greater life satisfaction. The revelation comes in a study carried out by psychology PhD candidate Brigid Waldron-Perrine and her colleagues, supervised …
Biology 28 Jun 12:37
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Smartphone security gets better: Blanket bans no longer inevitable
King Canute approach to iOS and Android no longer a runner, says Symantec
Built-in mobile device security is better than that of PCs, but still insufficient, according to Symantec. A new whitepaper from the net security giant, entitled A Window into Mobile Device Security: Examining the security approaches employed in Apple's iOS and Google's Android, looks at the security strategies behind Apple's …
Mobile 28 Jun 12:50
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FEAR 3
Review Fright or flight?
If you've not followed developments in the FEAR franchise of late then you might be left somewhat puzzled by FEAR 3's initial goings-on – the game plunging the player into a set-up which is never particularly embellished or explained. Waking in a prison, series protagonist 'Point Man' must not only put up with his rather mundane …
reghardware 28 Jun 13:00
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Actor Simon Pegg warns over banking Trojan Twitter hack
Malware that can 'shrink iPads' not altogether funny
Zombie movie star Simon Pegg was obliged to warn his followers after his Twitter feed was hacked to post links to malware. Supposed links to a screensaver for Pegg's alien comedy Paul actually contained a Trojan horse. A Twitter update promoting the app was posted to Pegg's @simonpegg account inviting his 1.2 million followers …
Malware 28 Jun 13:12
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Acer slides 16GB Iconia Tab A500 onto UK shelves
Dual-core fondleslab flutters in
Acer has stocked retailer's shelves with a 16GB version of its Iconia Tab A500, available now to UK punters from £350. First revealed at CES earlier this year, the 10.1in fondleslab packs the Android 3.0 Honeycomb OS with the Acer UI and a dual-core 1GHz Nvidia Tegra 2 CPU. Check out Reg Hardware's Acer Iconia Tab A500 …
reghardware 28 Jun 13:14
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El Reg talks chips with Intel server strategist
Video 2nd generation
Danny Bradbury from The Register heads down to Intel to talk about the new 2nd Gen chips, the E7 family of Xeon chips, with Dylan Larson, director of server technology initiatives for Intel. ® Watch Video var MediaPlayerVars = { '_': { 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pW-YXNSpt4': { screencolor: '000000 …
Enterprise Tech 28 Jun 13:19
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LightSquared faces challenge from the House
Yet another hurdle to be jumped
Two US Representatives have tabled an amendment which will stop box 'o frogs wireless plan LightSquared from ever building its network, at least until it can prove a negative. The amendment requires LightSquared to prove that its planned pan-USA LTE network won't interfere with GPS systems, before the FCC can spend any money …
Mobile 28 Jun 13:23
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Gambling companies must be extra careful with personal data
Opinion Protect punters' info while palming their cash
Companies have to protect the personal data they collect in proportion to its sensitivity, and gambling companies must be particularly attentive to information security. The data that gambling companies collect is particularly sensitive, meaning a data breach could have a serious adverse impact on their reputation and …
CIO 28 Jun 13:52
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US court okays violent videogames for kids
In the name of free speech
The US Supreme Court has voided a Californian law which prevents the sale of violent videogames to minors, claiming it violates the nation's constitution-enshrined freedom of speech. Filmstar Arnold Schwarzenegger proposed the bill in 2005 while state governor, intending to make it illegal for retailers to sell adult-oriented …
reghardware 28 Jun 13:59
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ICO orders release of (mostly useless) weather station data
CRU cuts of weather datasets released into the wild
The Information Commissioner's Office has ordered the University of East Anglia to release a portion of a weather dataset. The University's Climatic Research Unit had shared the data with Georgia Tech but refused to release it more widely. A leading Oxford physicist, Professor Jonathan Jones, made the successful request, which …
Environment 28 Jun 14:13
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Punters to spend $2.1 trillion on e-tat this year
Way more money spent on digital plumbing than what's piped through
World+Dog will spend $2.1 trillion (£1.3 trillion) on digital information and entertainment products and services this year, and the crazy part is most of that money will be spent on connectivity. According to market watcher Gartner, 2011 is shaping up like 2010, a year in which $2 trillion was spent by consumers on …
reghardware 28 Jun 14:36
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Tablets for work: time for a clean slate?
They're coming anyway
There's a revolution going on in the enterprise, driven - usually - by the Apple iPad. Tablets are becoming increasingly visible at work but are they business tools or toys? Can they bring benefits to the business or are they just a security hole? Before tablets, we saw laptops with rotating screens that could be converted …
Desktop Strategy 28 Jun 14:38
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Umbrella-wielding Steve Ballmer gets cloudy with Office 365
Microsoft boss prepares for webby downpour
Prepackaged software giant Microsoft uncorked its latest online business productivity service, dubbed Office 365, today. It's essentially a re-branding exercise by Redmond, which has replaced the firm's clunkily-named Business Productivity Online Suite (BPOS) of apps with a cloud-based offering for biz customers. But the song …
Applications 28 Jun 14:42
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MS advises drastic measures to fight hellish Trojan
Updated Kill it with fire!
Microsoft is advising users to roll-back Windows if they happen to be unfortunate enough to get hit by a particularly vicious rootkit. The Popureb Trojan sticks its tendrils so deep into the operating system that the best option is to nuke from orbit return machines to their pre-infected state and change the Master Boot Record …
Malware 28 Jun 15:04
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Teenager tries to trade virginity for iPhone
My cherry for your Apple
Replace 'Dairylea' with 'iPhone' and the cheese-spread's slogan would be an accurate insight into the current state of youthful consumerism: kids will literally do anything for Apple kit. According to Chinese news site Biznewschina, a teenage girl has offered her virginity in exchange for an iPhone 4. The report, which we …
reghardware 28 Jun 15:19
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Renault pledges Fluence ZE will be UK's cheapest e-car
'Ullo, Jean, got a new motor?
Renault has price up its Fluence ZE to claim the EV will be the cheapest e-car in the UK when it arrives next year. Its cost to you: £17,850 on-the-road after the government's £5,000 e-car grant, a price that "undercuts every other electric car in the UK". True, that is rather more than the £6690 Renault is going to be …
reghardware 28 Jun 15:36
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Mastercard blitzed again in further DDoS attack
Updated History repeating
MasterCard's website became difficult to reach on Tuesday following the launch of an apparent denial of service attack. Twitter user @ibomhacktivist claimed responsibility for the reported assault, which it said had been motivated by Mastercard's decision to suspend an account maintained by WikiLeaks in the wake of the whistle …
Enterprise Security 28 Jun 15:39
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ISS crew man the lifeboat
Space junk prompts retreat to Soyuz capsule
The crew of the International Space Station were obliged to take refuge in the docked Russian Soyuz capsule this afternoon, as space junk passed within 250 metres of the orbiting outpost. According to Interfax, a Russian space official described the temporary evacuation as "normal procedure" during a close encounter with …
Space 28 Jun 15:44
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Produce purveyors create edible iPhone
Fruit cocktail combines to make an Apple
The world is getting rather fruity over September's reported release of the iPhone 5, yet nobody has gone quite as far as these guys. Irish nosh supplier Top Fruit certainly knows a thing or two about apples. It also knows that by promoting itself with something iPhone 5 related, it'll probably get a lot of attention. Job done …
reghardware 28 Jun 16:48
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Google activates half million Androids a day
Little credit to tablets, presumably
Activations of Android-based devices now exceed half a million per day, and are growing by 4.4 per cent each week. This news comes via a triumphal Tuesday tweet from no less an Adroidophile than Google's mobile headman Andy Rubin. It's instructive that Rubin's tweet referred to "Android devices". Last December, the rarely …
Mobile 28 Jun 17:05
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Oracle Solaris 11 to abandon elderly servers
Sun sets on UltraSparc I through IV+
Oracle is putting the finishing spit and polish on its impending Solaris 11 Unix operating system, but if you're hoping to plunk it on some vintage iron – or even some machines that are really not so old at all – you're going to be disappointed. The software giant and hardware player has put out an end of life notice for …
Servers 28 Jun 18:11
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Groupon India publishes 300,000 user passwords
Stored in the clear, indexed by Google
Groupon subsidiary Sosasta.com accidentally published a database containing the email addresses and clear-text passwords of 300,000 users and the cache was indexed by Google. The trove of personal data was discovered by Australian security consultant Daniel Grzelak as he plugged a handful of query terms into the search engine, …
ID 28 Jun 18:58
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Google Apps v Microsoft Office 365: Rumble in the enterprise
Review To web or kinda sorta to web
Microsoft's Office 365 has come out of beta. But does it have what it takes to counter Google Apps? Office 365 has four cloud-hosted components: Exchange, SharePoint, Lync, and Office Web Apps, which you can use to access the other three from a browser. The addition of Dynamics CRM (Customer Relationship Management) is planned …
Applications 28 Jun 19:00
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Microserver chip performance smackdown
Tilera v Atom v ARM, with worried Xeon watching
There's been a lot of talk about how well future servers based on Atom, ARM, Tilera, and other processors might compete against workhorse Xeon or Opteron servers. What there hasn't been a lot of is benchmark data that shows how those so-called microserver processors stack up – until now. Tilera threw a coming-out party for …
Servers 28 Jun 20:29
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Yahoo! seeds Hadoop startup on open source dream
Hortonworks hears a Big Data revolution
Yahoo! is creating a new company with its core Hadoop engineering team, seeking to rapidly expand the scope of the open source distributed number-crunching platform and ultimately bring it to a much wider audience. In growing the Hadoop "ecosystem" through increased work on the core Apache-based open source project, the company …
Software 28 Jun 21:41
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IBM gets fat on Oracle-HP Itanium spat
Larry's Unix enemy is Big Sam's too
With Oracle pulling the rug out from underneath Intel's Itanium processor in an effort to undermine rival HP's Unix-server business, two obvious questions arise: What makes Itanium so special that it has roused the disaffections of the software giant? And why hasn't Big Blue's Power Systems platform been tarred with the same …
Servers 28 Jun 23:45
