Not one original thought in all of that.

"That's bullshit. When you're dealing with scum, you'll always have some things to hide, at least when planning."

Wagner and Ezquerra called. They'd like their fascist stereotype back.

" If some lowlife [blah de blah ...]"

" Would your grandparents have been [blah de blah ... ]"

Please point to specific examples where Wikileaks have revealed details of future operations, or take your analogies back to the shop you bought them from. They're cheap, and appear to be broken.

"Sure, the world's governments are hardly paragons of virtue, and they do things we don't like, but trashing everything they do to teach them a lesson isn't going to make things better. "

Where's this "trashing everything"? In between that and you sitting on your arse lapping it up, there's a whole spectrum of comment and action that is actually rather productive and helps the world ... progress.

"Unless you can provide (and I mean *provide*, not just blow hot air on ideas) a better alternative then it's just plain stupid to smash what's there already."

Transparent government that seeks to represent the people, not the corporations and party backers. There you go. Or is that just blowing hot air on ideas? Funny. I thought that's what Government did every time an election came round.

"I wonder how many of these kiddy anarchists that are cheering wikileaks"

Like my sixty-something father. A well-off member of the medical profession. A long-time voter. A home-owner. A believer in democracy and the rule of law. Kiddy anarachists like him? Like a bunch of us, he's just had enough with the abuse of power we witness day in day out.

"on even bothered to vote in their last elections"

Same old, same old. Voting legitimises the current rubbish. Hence politicians and their endless talk of mandates, when said mandate doesn't exist. When only person votes, we might see the end of that particularly galling lie. When their promises even vaguely match up to their practice, I might feel differently. You're just a happy mark.

"never mind actually considered standing as a candidate to change things. "

Same old, same old. We can't all be politicians, just like we can't all be CEOs. Doesn't mean we should let those who are collude for their own benefit.

"Grow up."

You posted as AC. Not because you wanted to share some information with us that perhaps you shouldn't. That, a la wikileaks, is the only legitimate usage. Otherwise, you just want to dissociate your online self from your words. Why?