Bit rambly, sorry.

>“...it really isn't that bad outside of the brainwashed blathering of Jobsian zombies, who are all suddenly raving about Flash being a nightmare at the same time...”

Sorry, it *is* that bad. Most conscientious web designers and developers (hello!) have been decrying the use of non standard web elements, including, Flash since 1998. Although Flash may have improved from an accessibility stand point, it's still not a great solution. It has it's place *at the moment*; mainly as a wrapper for audio and video content. Of all the existing web technologies that exist today, Flash is by far the most loathsome, over-used and abused. Which sys admin in their right mind would allow flash onto the corporate network?

>“Having a zero-day exploit, which happens regularly to Apple products, Microsoft products and everybody else's products, says nothing about the quality of the software and everything about its targetability as a ubiquitous platform.” First of all no-one has said that Apple, Microsoft et al. are free from exploited products and security issues, however so far un-jailbroken iPhones have been free of such issues, the exception being a drive-by and they can affect most browsers, what with it being more of a PICNIC issue rather than a security flaw. Microsofts new mobile OS has got an even better security record. And to the crux of the matter. Adobe's track record is hardly good. How long has 64 bit Flash been in development? It seems that not a week goes past without one report or another warning us of another vulnerable discovered in an Adobe product. Whilst it's fair to point out that Apple's own desktop OS is hardly a model of ironclad security and neither is Microsoft's, it's to be expected in OSs of that size and that age. Microsoft really do a remarkable job with Windows, and Apple are getting better at responding to security issues, but Adobe? It's a fucking runtime! Sun manage to stay on top of Java (although Apple do struggle), Microsoft are doing sterling work with Silverlight. But Adobe? Jobs got it right when he called them lazy! So, let's consider the evidence. Slow to patch software. Slow to implement documented API's. Consistently release half baked software. Security is an afterthought. Haven't yet released a decent *full version* of Flash on a mobile platform. It's not surprising that Apple have said ‘thanks, but no thanks...’ to Adobe. I'd urge Microsoft to do the same, but Ballmer is just stupid enought to allow it onto Microsoft's new mobile OS just to be contrary and personally if I were Adobe, I wouldn't trust those that rule the Mountain View Chocolate Factory as far a coult spit; I'm still waiting for one of those three to aquire Adobe...

Just a bootnote; may I respectfully suggest that you leave behind the ad hominems and inflamatory comment, I copped a bollocking for it, deservedly so, and now trying to avoid it. It can be hard but ultimately it makes you consider what you are going to say more. It can serve to give you the moral high ground too! It's ok to have opposing views, it's not ok to call people names because they do, even if it is really annoying. Attack the idea. Obviously, giant multinational corporations and their management are fair game