Google booted from China's number two carrier
'We work with any company that obeys the law'
China's second largest wireless carrier - China Unicom - has said it will remove Google's search service from the Android phones it developed in tandem with the web giant, citing the company's decision to reroute Google.cn to uncensored servers in Hong Kong.
“We are willing to work with any company that abides by Chinese law . . . we don’t have any co-operation with Google currently,” said Unicom president Lu Yimin, according to the Financial Times.
Google had already postponed the launch of two Unicom Android phones, saying back in late January that it would be "irresponsible" to bring them to market as it mulled its position in China. On January 12, after alleged Chinese hackers pilfered intellectual property from Google's internal systems, the company announced that it would no longer censor search results in the country, and it spent the next two months and change looking for ways of making good on that promise.
Then, on Monday, it redirected Google.cn, its Chinese search engine, to servers in Hong Kong, where it began serving search results to the mainland in simplified Chinese.
In a recent statement sent to The Register, Google says that due to ongoing issues with its search engine in the country, it has "postponed the availability of Google mobile applications on Android devices from operators in China until further notice". But at least on Unicom, that postponement is now permanent.
Contacted again today, Google said "we have nothing new to share".
Unicom will still offer the Android phones, and it says handset makers choose which search engine to use. Motorola and Samsung manufactured the two delayed Unicom phones, and early this month Motorola said that before the end of the quarter it would add a Microsoft Bing browser bookmark and a Bing search widget to new Chinese phones based on Google's open source OS. It appears, however, that Bing will not be the default search engine.
According to The FT, China Mobile - the country's largest carrier - is still offering Google as one search option on phones that are based on Android, but the China Mobile chairman recently said that the two companies never had an exclusive relationship. ®
Can they though?
You are assuming that the Chinese 'people' can make a concious decision here - are you sure they can? Can they vote out the people making these decisions? Can they read unbiased news and not be subject to propaganda?
When the 'people' speak and not the 'government' - then you can talk about the people's will.
Not quite the same
You're comparing free speech to child abuse?
As much as I'm no great fan of the USA, and the UK isn't perfect either, but the people there at least have the right to, say, criticise the government. Can you imagine someone like Noam Chomsky being allowed his freedom in China, let alone holding academic positions and publishing books?
... forfeit their membership?
Why do they need to , bearing in mind how much the rest of the world now relies on them as the worlds manufacturer.
If China withdrew from the WTO, who exactly would boycott trade with them? It's a fine idea as long as you don't want computers, TV's, other electronic devices, plasticware, knives and forks, kids toys, tee shirts and jeans... and even a place to send all your plastic waste to be re-used rather than dumped in landfill.
I could go on.
Next time you buy something non-food, pretty much anything, have a look at where it was made. Just think how you would like to wait a year to get non-Chinese production scaled up, and how you would embrace paying three times as much for it. And that's not to mention the billions of dollars that China has invested from it's sovereign wealth fund propping up UK and US companies.
No, China is not afraid of the WTO. We should be afraid of them leveraging their dominant manufacturing position on us. Still, we only have ourselves to blame for letting our manufacturing sector to become so niche.
I don't like the human rights issues either, but if you examine the United Nations Charter, you will find that not even this allows any country to interfere with another sovereign nation (Article 2, Paragraph 7 apparently). Mind you, this appears to be something that the US and UK governments have forgotten over the years.
The other concern I have is why so many people think that the western democratic system is the only one worth merit? It should be quite obvious from Afghanistan and Iraq that it does not fit the whole world's moral and ethical systems. We (in the west) are just being moral snobs. I don't think that the Chinese system is currently fair, but that does not mean that we immediately have to schedule a western style election for China. The Chinese representational system, if it were implemented correctly could work, as long as the people at the top loose their desire to stay in power (hmmmm, probably not going to happen).
Anyway, enough of this Friday Afternoon politics, I need a pint!