UK.gov stacking up gang of clouds
Ain't nothin' but a G-thang
The government's CIO has said he expects the public sector to use commercial cloud computing services as well as the 'G Cloud'.
Government chief information officer John Suffolk said that organisations will make use of generally available clouds as well as the environment being designed specifically for the government.
The Cabinet Office is leading the development of the G Cloud to provide a shared, virtualised infrastructure for data storage and applications.
Speaking to journalists at the launch of Socitm's IT Trends 2009-10 report, he said the key factor will be what is most appropriate to the organisation's needs, and that 'public clouds' could in some cases offer a better deal.
"If it delivers good citizen outcomes at a price you can afford then use the public cloud," he said, adding that organisations will not be mandated to take any specific approach but will be left to make their own choices.
"We are saying to departments that they know their own business," he said. "We think it will flesh out a bigger strategic debate and will drive some towards the cloud, while others will take different approaches."
He qualified this, however, by saying that any personal data should not be kept on a public cloud, adding that when the G Cloud becomes available it will be a more appropriate repository for personal information.
Suffolk also suggested there is likely to be more than one cloud for public services, pointing out that healthcare bodies, the police and other organisations have different demands that would have to be satisfied.
He reiterated the rationale for the G Cloud as a model of reducing duplication and cutting costs for IT services to the public sector.
"You can't have hundreds of data centres and tens or even hundreds of networks. You have to ask 'Do we need to do all this ourselves?' I just don't think it's a suitable model for the next 10 years."
An additional advantage would be that it would support small and medium sized IT companies trying to win a share of the public sector market.
"We see small, innovative organisations struggling to do business with the public sector because they can't show the scale that is necessary," Suffolk said, adding that they often need to provide an underlying infrastructure to applications or services. The G Cloud could provide the infrastructure on which they would work.
"We believe this will open up the market to SMEs because they don't have to bring the infrastructure. We want them to focus on top end innovation delivering with outcomes for citizens, rather than bottom end infrastructure."
Suffolk said that more than 100 organisations are currently working on the G Cloud, addressing issues such as migrating data, security and the dangers of vendor lock-in. Suppliers have been encouraged to provide their knowledge of what has worked in a commercial environment in areas such as licensing.
A review of the work is expected to be published in mid-February. He declined to set a date when the G Cloud would be fully operational, suggesting it could be opened in increments. "We need to walk before we can run," he said.
This article was originally published at Kable.
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Re: Bad Idea Posted Monday 25th January 2010 10:16 GMT
Your post identifies that present arrangements, with them having rights to pretty much at whim bust down the doors of any data centre and walk out with a rack of servers for examination, are insecure ........ and thus is plagued with uncertainties about where your data is at any one time, more specifically what legal jurisdiction it's in, and under what laws who has access to it at that moment in time.
In fact, presently is the law and justice a banana and a tool of oppression and suppression, which is unfortunate, inconvenient and inevitably increasingly quickly self defeating as an effective tyrannical weapon.
Pouring Oil on the Fire to Douse the Flames?
"So this government ....that doesn't seem able to implement a database or two, is designing a cloud. marvelous. whats it for, and how do I get the expression 'cloud cuckoo land' into this post post meaningfully ?" ......zooooooom Posted Friday 22nd January 2010 16:53 GMT
Err, what's it for? ..... how about so that they can try to retain Power and Control whenever kicked out of Parasitic Office because they are Incompetent with Power and Control Controls, zooooooom? Does that sound about right?
Follow the Money is always the Simplest and Best Way to find out who is Pulling Strings and who would be Thinking to Lead with Powerful Controls. And it is also always the case that, even though it is Relative and some Big Sums will be QuITe Small in terms of the Bigger Picture, and the Bigger Pictures they would be trying to Control, whenever those Big Sums are QuITe Small are the Controls only as Peanuts for Monkeys, and they will Power Nothing, which has been the Story of Governments which are Spinning Tales for ...... oh, since forever since they began just Spinning Tales.
The Simple Solution of Course is to Buy in a Really Well Made Already Working Well and Better with Every New Working Beta GCloud Intelligently Designed by Experts in the Field rather than hoping that Political Appointees and Government Stoolies newly invented and installed can Produce anything Special and of Lasting Value in a Field which would Recognise their Appointments and Existence as Anathema.
Nice to see our Govt. IT strategy jumping onto the latest unproven immature hype bandwagon.
If they promise it won't be used for personal data storage then fair enough. But in my opinion the cloud is not yet proven fit for the storage of personal info for en-mass mass general business use
Cloud providers won't allow customer audit's of their facilities
Going from a small outfit to cloud massively increases the attack footprint
Plagued with uncertainties about where your data is at any one time, more specifically what legal jurisdiction it's in, and under what laws who has access to it at that moment in time
The US Patriot Act gave them rights to pretty much at whim bust down the doors of any data centre and walk out with a rack of servers for examination. Would I trust my whole business, and all it's data to an offshore cloudy data centre that i've never even seen, subject to laws I don't know or don't understand? NO WAY!
The fact that so many are jumping on this bandwagon just confirms what a bunch of herd following, trend jumping thoughtless overpaid fat cat incompetents our CIO's really are.