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Former JBoss chief Marc Fleury has weighed in on MySQL co-founder Monty Widenius' campaign to stop Oracle's ownership of the open-source database.

Fleury has reprimanded Widenius publicly in his blog, calling the MySQL "situation" a "disgrace" that's hurting Sun and could damage the future of open source software.

Fleury presided over the sale of JBoss, home to the successful and disruptive application server, to Red Hat in 2006 for $350m following a flirtation with Oracle.

He's written this week that Widenius' actions are "making OSS acquisitions look very dangerous and dicey."

It seems that the issue for Fleury is simple: MySQL was sold to Sun, so MySQL's founders and former owners have no say in what happens next. MySQL was bought by Sun in 2008 for $1bn.

"I got to say that the boys at MySQL have made a huge hash of things. After selling $1B to Sun, they want their cake and eat it too. So they leave, fork and otherwise raise a huge stink," Fleury blogged.

"Of course, Monty is free to fork MySQL and rename it. If he is unhappy he should. But boy! Doing a public campaign trying to block the acquisition, will only add to the public fire of EU scrutiny, possibly shutting down the acquisition and will only hurt Sun and Sun employees."

Widenius' protest has seen him lobby the European Union to investigate Oracle's proposed ownership of MySQL. He's also launched a Save MySQL web site that has attracted support from more than 15,000 people.

However, it seems that Fleury believes the protest is wrong and might deter those considering the acquisition and integration of other open source companies into their businesses, in case their deals might be similarly disputed by people such as the technology founders or project stakeholders.

He has a point: many in the US don't see problems for MySQL under Oracle and as a result don't understand why the EU is looking into the purchase after it was cleared by their country's own regulatory authorities.

To Fleury's point that the MySQL protest may deter others from buying and integrating open source companies into their companies in the future, Red Hat took a gamble on buying JBoss - a loss-making operation with no proven business model. It's now making a "ton of money" - more than $100m a year - after three years of false starts and fumbles since Red Hat's purchase, he said.

Fleury's "you-made-your-bed-now-lie-in-it" argument is one that his former colleagues have used to hammer Widenius' and his campaign.

Last October, former JBoss chief technology officer and co–general manager of Red Hat's JBoss division Sacha Labourey upbraided those protesting Oracle's potential ownership of MySQL, saying the problem of ownership would not be an issue had the team not years back decided to put MySQL under a dual license: GPL and commercial. A purely GPL license would not confer things like intellectual-property rights to a single company. ®

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It seems to me that...

If the creator of MySQL wants to dictate, block or interfere with the operations or sale of MySQL then a refund to Sun of the $1bn purchase price would be in order. seems only right, if he wants to still be in control of it, then he needs to give Sun their money back...

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He's right

Once you sell your company, you don't have the right to criticize what happens (unless you have some funky clauses in the contracts!).

Same as the decedents of Cadbury protesting against Kraft - if you want to have control don't sell the thing off in the first place.

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Well said Marc, sense at last.

Widenius was happy to accept Sun's money and walk away with it. Since MySQL is open source he is free to put his money where his mouth is and take it to market himself. The people he is hurting most with this ongoing vendetta/crusade are his former colleagues at Sun, some of whom joined with him from MySQL anyway. I'm sure Sun would be in a much stronger financial position today if they had never met Widenius in the first place.

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