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'Pretty damn confident' of approval for deal

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Oracle remains confident that the European Union will cave in and abandon objections to its proposed takeover of Sun Microsystems.

The firm gave evidence in Brussels yesterday, including support from several customers who believe that MySQL is not a serious competitor to Oracle's core database products.

Thomas Vinje, one of Oracle's lawyers at Clifford Chance, said the firm was "pretty damn confident" that the deal would be approved.

He said: "There is a mountain of consistent evidence favouring every one of our key propositions... If we're successful on any one of them, the case must go away," according to Bloomberg.

Vijne was speaking after the first of a two day hearing - Oracle is back before regulators today, along with Microsoft and SAP who both object to the $7.2bn takeover.

Oracle has echoed complaints made by Intel that the EC has been selective in choosing evidence. The company complains that several of its customers were wrongly painted as opponents of the deal by the EC.

Statements from Vodafone, McAfee and General Electric all supported Oracle's view that it is not a direct competitor to MySQL, the Wall Street Journal reports.

The Commission remains concerned that the two are - or could in future be - effective competitors, which would leave little reason for Oracle to continue to support the open source database. ®

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poor monty

i for one welcome our new oracle overlords (where's the kang or brockman icon??) - the best of a bunch.

this really has nothing to do with oracle and mysql competing but monty the founder whose company was bought and then left he the acquirer. he lost his sense of identity and wants it back (on the cheap). he's even started his own fork mariadb. he's publicly admitted that it wont have the following of mysql it due to the following that mysql has (that's why sun paid 1 billion). monty wants to get it one the cheap.

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Oracle already owns MySQL's transactional heart... and has not snuffed it out

Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 11th December 2009 12:18 GMT --- There's no other choice, the database market is dominated by Oracle and MySQL is a challenger that is snuffed out by this... To me it appears the MAIN reason Oracle would buy Sun is to kill MySQL

That is SOOOO myopic! The world does not revolve around MySQL - a transactionless database without existing Oracle technology. If Oracle wanted to kill MySQL, they could just kill InnoDB, that they own, to take away transactional capability, right??? (Then again, InnoDB hasn't already been forked to XtraDB???)

If MySQL is largely transactionless, without InnoDB from Oracle, then MySQL is is effectively not a competitor with Oracle, but a sibling in Oracle's database family.

If MySQL is a transactionless database, largely without InnoDB from Oracle, then Oracle already has MySQL by the genitals, and Oracle has demonstrated that they have not snuffed out MySQL.

This is really silly concerns over Oracle with MySQL, an concern divorced from reality...

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