Pirate Bay co-founders deny ownership of site
BrokeP says TPB should have got Nobel peace prize
Lawyers representing The Pirate Bay co-founders, Frederik Neij and Gottfrid Warg, denied in a Dutch civil court yesterday that the Swedish men currently own the notorious BitTorrent tracker site.
They told the court that Neij and Warg sold TPB in 2006, and added that the outfit’s ex-mouthpiece, Peter Sunde, had never owned the site.
However, when questioned lawyer Ernst-Jan Louwers could not reveal to Judge Wil Tonkens whom the men had sold the site to, reports the Associated Press.
Neij, Warg and Sunde were in court disputing an earlier order that required the men to pay a daily fine of €30,000 for failing to shutter the TPB service in the Netherlands.
In a separate move yesterday, Dutch pro-copyright group Stichting Brein - which first brought legal action against the operators behind TPB in July - sought a summary judgment against Seychelles-based firm and supposed Pirate Bay-registered owner, Reservella Ltd.
Its lawyers also demanded that web traffic between TPB and the Netherlands be halted.
A ruling in both cases is expected later this month. Meanwhile, an appeals hearing for the TPB men will take place in Sweden on 13 November.
Elsewhere, Sunde AKA BrokeP, remains characteristically shouty on Twitter and his blog where he has made serious claims that Brein faked evidence, which allegedly shows Neij listed as CEO of Reservella.
"We were quite sure [Neij] did not have an offshore company set up," he wrote in a long-winded blog post yesterday. "And if he did, at least he would be smart enough to not be a director in it."
BrokeP has also been pondering a Norwegian committee’s decision to award the Nobel peace prize to that lovely, handsome bloke, Barack Obama.
“I think that the peace price [sic] should have gone to TPB more than to Obama. At least TPB did something,” opined BrokeP on his Twitter. ®
These guys just come across like a bunch of spoiled kids in trouble.
"Is this yours?"
"No miss I sold it three years ago."
"Oh really, who to?"
"Did you get a receipt?"
I don't recall them mentioning this in their defence before, even though if it were true it would be pivotal evidence. I suppose the dog ate their homework as well. How do they expect a court or anybody else to take them seriously when they spout this shit?
All along I've got the impression from these fucktards that they don't take any of this stuff seriously and think that somehow daddy will come along and make it all go away. At first Daddy was the Swedish legal system, but that daddy seems to have deserted them and run off with his secretary. Not sure who they think daddy is now, but if they do hard time I'm sure they'll end up calling somebody daddy.
Les Matthew thinks you get sex is Swedish prisons? You probably do, but maybe not like you're thinking. And these guys don't strike me as the sort who will end up being the giver.
Why oh why
is this case getting so much attention, and the case against iiNet (an Australian ISP) being completely ignored.
Especially given the case against iiNet was brought at the direction of the MPA in the USA (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/157967,day-five-film-industry-monitored-internode-exetel-and-optus.aspx)
Don't think for a second that if the Movie Studios win this case in Australia it won't affect ISPs in any other country. This is just a test case for the MPA against a small ISP in what they think is a backwater country (which just happens to have copied the US copyright laws wholesale when they signed a free trade agreement a few years back), and it will no doubt form the basis of their legal strategy elsewhere if it succeeds.
They have also used the same legal dirty tricks as in the Pirate Bay case of including several serious but ultimately bogus claims in the original case, which are then dropped mere days before the start of the trial.
Google, Yahoo, Bing etc do not host torrent trackers, they may act as a search engine which will serve up links to .torrent files, but these are not the tracker. TPB operate torrent trackers, which the .torrent files point to and regulate who is connected to any particular torrent.
As I have mentioned before - if TPB didn't tell people asking to have their copyright material removed to "fuck off", and actually took down the torrent for said content (a la google, yahoo, bing, youtube) they probably wouldn't be in this mess now. We would also be able to have the use of the legitimate torrents that they provide trackers for.