I Don't have an IPhone or use MS products

Doubt that I ever will.

I use Ubuntu on my apparently redundant thing called a Computer, and a Cell Phone that sits it my car and gets used only in emergency situations.

I expect I am not conditioned to this buying the latest shiny gadget or MSs latest expensive OS.

Must go now for my afternoon nap.

Peace and Joy to you all.

@John 104

No nerves touched here really, you chaps across the pond must be really sensitive. You are reading waaaaay too much into the quote you used (nice "Fox 'News'" style editing there). Fanboi? So, because I choose to buy products from a vendor that you or windywoo or any other vacuous troll disapprove of and call me and every other consumer that chooses Apple names, I cannot respond? I can't recall as many posts slagging off other platforms as readily as most slag off the iPhone, with most of it just hearsay or at best personal conjecture (5 minutes in an Apple store just doesn't count). At what point in either post do I say that all other platforms are crap and that people who buy, say a WinMo BJ2, are arrogant and geeky zealots that only use the device to be 'alternative', and are therefore pretentious? I don't. Because I *don't* think that. I believe it is your right as a consumer to choose and to use what ever device you want. In fact the closest I got is perhaps pointing out how well the iPhone is doing in the market place. Do *I* think my choice is better? Yes. Do I think I'm a better person than you or anyone else because of this choice? No. See, that's where people like you get it wrong. As stated, I am personally a little bit sick of constantly (and it is constant - look at *any* Reg article referencing Apple or the iPhone if you wish) seeing posts by vapid narcissists who think that their opinion is lore. Hey, nothing wrong with not liking Apple or it products. That's an individuals right as a consumer, although hating a business is a little OTT - this isn't football (both sorts will do here). I do have a problem with it when I am told, repeatedly, that *I'm* an idiot for buying "over-priced junk" from Apple and that I only bought the products because I think it makes me look cool and get callen fanboi when I say that *I* like it! STFU! I've been asked about the iPhone by friends and relatives, and I have told them that *I* think it's the best phone that *I* have ever owned, because *I* do - it's the first one that I've had and not found myself counting down the contract. Some people only have Nokia. Are they fanboi's? Are they exhibiting brand loyalty? Or, here's a scary thought, they just like them. Why is it OK for people like windywoo to have a problem with that, but not OK for someone to pull them up on it? Fanboi? Am I a Dell fanboi because I have a Dell laptop and netbook? Am I a Windows fanboi because I like what Microsoft have done with Windows 7? No, I must be an Ubuntu fanboi, because I like how it runs on my netbook. I am an Office fanboi because I think the ribbon interface is a truely excellent example of UI design. I'm also an oxygen fanboi, because I like breathing. So yes, I suppose I am a fanboi, certainly of technology and computing, and obviously breathing. Perhaps I shouldn't have fed this particular troll, and I should let windywoo's opinions wash over me, but then again, why should a coward like that get away with it? Levente Szileszky and Karim Bourouba have both posted some truley shocking examples of fanboism and trolling here - I'm not biting, I'm certainly not 'upset' by it. I think that they are wrong. Are you going to have a go at Levente? He seems to be *really* upset. Or is your particular prejudice strictly for Apple users? As I said, everyone is entitled to an opinion, even you.