MySQL.com sites go dark
Swedish power outage
Updated MySQL.com has been down for several hours today, after a power outage in the Swedish city where the open-source database project is hosted.
This means users and developers were unable to access source code, documentation, discussion groups, and bug tracking.
According to Duleepa "Dups" Wijayawardhana of Sun Microsystem's MySQL Community Team, Sun was scheduled to reinforce the project's infrastructure this coming weekend, hoping to avoid this sort of downtime. But the power outage hit before the changes could be made.
"We're having a major power outage at Uppsala, Sweden where our servers are," Dups tells The Reg. "We had been planning for this exact scenario at Sun Microsystems and were planning on making the changes this Saturday. But as you know, sometimes Murphy's Law just cuts in! We're making our server and colo changes now instead. Please bear with us."
Wijayawardhana says the outage occurred about 5am Pacific time. But according to one user in Birmingham, UK, www.mysql.com, dev.mysql.com, bugs.mysql.com, and forum.mysql.com have been down for a bit longer - since about 4am Pacific. This, he says, is "making work a bit tricky."
Sun Microsystems acquired MySQL last year. And now that Sun itself is on the verge of being acquired by Oracle, many have wondered whether Larry Ellison and company have an eye on burying the MySQL project. "Wow, mysql.com is down," one user said via Twitter before Sun pinned the problem on a power outage. "Oracle buying Sun is really making me paranoid about this." ®
Between 4pm and 4:30pm Pacific time, the sites were partially restored. "In talking to our systems engineers, I am happy to report that we now have most of our main sites running in a limited mode," Dups said. "At this time there maybe functionality that is disabled or unavailable. We expect to have full recovery and back to normal over the next 3-6 hours. We apologize for the inconvenience that this power failure has caused and thank the public for their patience."
Much the same message came from the MySQL Community Twitter feed: "Almost there, #MySQL.com is partially up and running, we're still working on it."
At around 11pm Pacific, the MySQL Twitter feed announced that the sites were completely restored.
Upp. is down?
It must be proof that godless socialism is nothing compared to apple pie fuelled democracy which is Capitalism.
Time to create some kind of super P2P system...
We need to create some far more robust *generic* way of storing all online data. So it can store, web sites, forums, wiki's, source code, etc.. in a distributed data storage system. Some kind of super P2P system thats a web server and a database and uses other copies to check its integrity. Then the loss of one node in the system doesn't create an outage, it just slows the system up a bit. This super P2P system needs to have ways to group data, as current P2P systems are a messy mass of single files, so this super P2P needs to in effect also be its open disk operating system, giving a way to group data into projects and subdirectories etc..
This kind of super P2P structure would also bypass censorship, as web sites in it couldn't be taken down. It would also route around any loss of individual storage nodes.
Also just as importantly it should always use encrypted comms to avoid ISP spying and interference and also all web hosting becomes local and so effectively free for everyone. It could easily end up creating the next step in evolution for the Internet where its totally distributed. It wouldn't replace the Internet, it would just backup and protect the important sites on the Internet.
It wouldn't mean everyone backs up everything. It would just mean everyone on a project would all have the latest files they need in their own local archive in a managed shared way, or at the very least if they don't have all the files it would mean they could get the files from multiple locations. (Also as some kind of super P2P becomes its own server, ISPs would also find it harder to limit its download speeds. Plus as it became more important, ISPs would be under more pressure to free up access to it).
@"The Oracle deal has closed"
Time to branch MySQL. :)
The bosses with the money love the idea of the so called "just in time" delivery system, because they don't have to pay for storage. Open source projects also operate the same way. A centralized database we assume is always there and ready to give us data without us having to store it locally. The problem with "just in time" – I.e. the "I want it now" mindset is that it doesn't buffer anything, so any loss of service suddenly creates a state of panic for bosses who then go around bullying their minions into panicking about the gap in service.
Some kind of Super P2P would avoid outages and free up the Internet again.
MySQL is owned by MySQL AB (now owned by Sun), a Swedish company. It's a Swedish company maintaining a Swedish project hosted in Sweden. Maybe you'd like to slap that FAIL tag on to your forehead.
Re: Couple of things..
That's all very clever until someone decides to spoof your IP...