Tesla and Daimler plan joint 'affordable' e-car
£18k EV for the rest of us in the works?
Leccy Tech Daimler AG’s recent “double-digit million Euro sum” tie-up with Tesla will result in an “affordable” electric vehicle, Tesla’s CEO has announced.
Elon Musk was keen to keep further details under wraps, but promised website Green Car Advisor that further details will be released later this year.
It’s reasonable to assume that the pair’s affordable e-car could well be the start of Project BlueStar - the long awaited Tesla leccy car for the rest of us that was to be developed using profits from the Model S.
The project’s thought to centre on a $30,000 (£18,200/€21,000) e-car that’ll sit just below its $57,400 (£34,900/€40,400) Model S.
A BlueStar-conceived e-car’s been rumoured to emerge in 2013, around the same time that Tesla plans to replace its Roadster with a new 2+2 style model sporting more luggage space and a four-wheel drive option.
Musk stressed that Tesla isn’t currently working on a second-generation Roadster, perhaps because all its efforts are currently focused on the Model S, which is due for release in 2011.
But when its new Roadster does hit the road, Musk claimed, it’ll be gunning for the Porsche 911 both in terms of performance and practicality.
The second-gen Roadster will use the same platform as the Model S and be available as both a convertible and a hard top coupé. ®
"Diesels. Pollute like it's going out of fashion "
A 10 Year old Model, possibly. One built by an American manufacturer, probably. Even a modern diesel that hasn't been properly maintained - maybe.
Modern, European / Japanese Diesel Cars < 7 Years Old that have been properly maintained? No. And newer ones are even cleaner.
Not to mention that Diesel engines generally last 2-3 times longer than equivalent Petrol/Gas engines.... You wouldn't buy a petrol car that had done much more than 150,000miles and expect it to last very long.
You *would* expect a decent diesel to easily do twice that. (I have a friend with an 04 VW Bora PD TDi that has done 450,000miles and is still going strong) So how much pollution is caused by the manufacture of all those replacement Petrol cars?
Getting Back ON topic - it's good to see that they are going for a more "affordable" car, but I agree with other posters on here that by the time it gets to the UK it will likely be £30,000 If not more.
Currently the Vauxhall/Opal Ampera looks like the best of a bad bunch, but god knows how much that will be by the time they've added "Blighty Tax"
Haven't you ever heard of the milk float? It's actually what people used to take the piss out of 'leccy cars for being like.
£18k is fairly affordable- it's not far off Ford Mondeo costs, and no-one (in the UK) would call a mondeo driver and elitist rich bastard. Hence it's pretty much affordable.
Unfortunately it'll be nearer £30k by the time it gets to us, which will make it vastly less affordable.
No, cars over £10k aren't doomed to fail. If anything, cars under £10k should be more doomed as people go for better second-hand cars. I mean if you had £10k you could go for a brand new top end small thing or a decent former-top-end second-hand car that can comfortably do long distances and sitting in traffic.
Small, economical cars are- generally- crap for long distance driving. Yes, you can do it but I'd much rather sit in a BMW than a Fiat Panda for a 600 mile drive. Full disclosure- I did 500 miles in an old 3-series (driving) and about 120 miles in a Panda last week. The beemer was fun and I could comfortably walk / run about afterwards. The Panda left me with backache.
I don't know...
"A car is a commodity just like a fridge or TV which you don't sell with with half naked bimbos."
I don't know... I don't think I'd mind too much if my new TV or Fridge came with half-naked bimbos. (but what about *their* carbon footprint?)