Microsoft 24 hours late with IE8 pwn protection
What a difference a DEP makes
Just one day after a little-known hacker dazzled his peers by exploiting the latest version of Internet Explorer 8 beta, Microsoft added an important protection to the browser that probably would have prevented the attack.
The measure, which was added to last Thursday's final release of IE8, restores so-called ASLR, or address space layout randomization, and DEP, or data execution prevention, to the Microsoft browser. Microsoft has more about that here.
Those protections, which made it harder for attackers to remotely execute malicious code after finding software bugs, were seen as a sea change when Microsoft added them to IE7. Then security researchers rained on Microsoft's parade last summer when they unveiled several methods to bypass the measures.
Nils, the German hacker who felled IE8 during last week's Pwn2Own hacker conference, hasn't said exactly how he managed to pull off the IE8 hack. Indeed, contest rules forbid contestants from divulging such information. But when asked in an interview by Ryan Naraine if he used Dowd and Sotirov's method, Nils smiled and responded: "I really appreciated their work."
What's more, fellow Pwn2Own contestant Charlie Miller says he remembers Nils admitting he used the Sotirov/Dowd technique at the competition to successfully exploit IE. Miller says he's sure of that because he was dying to know how Nils (who declined to share his last name) managed to penetrate the IE fortress.
"It was pretty powerful in the sense that without that technique no one knows how to get your code to execute in IE," Miller told The Reg. "It turns out he exploited (the) beta version of IE8 (that) hadn't done that fix."
Terri Forslof, manager of security response at Tipping Point Technologies, which sponsors Pwn2Own, said she couldn't comment on the speculation ahead of a blog post she planned to publish soon. We did, however, manage to pry a single sentence from her otherwise tight lips: "The released version of IE8 will most likely prove to be considerably more difficult to exploit on Vista, but with the other platforms all bets are off."
That's consistent with what we know about the ASLR, which only works when later versions of IE are running on top of Vista or Windows 7, which is still is beta. DEP only works on Windows XP, Service Pack 3 and later, a Microsoft spokeswoman said. (An earlier version of this story incorrectly said DEP was available for only for Vista and later.)
If the speculation proves correct, it means one of the safer ways to browse the internet is by using IE8 on Vista or Windows 7. At least for now. As the this episode demonstrates, software security is a fluid thing. A single new attack method from the bad guys or countermeasure by the white hats makes all the difference. Which is why this debate won't be settled anytime soon. ®
@Psymon, if you honestly believe that the only reason that Macs and *nix machines have only a handful of viruses compared to the huge Windows malware database is because of the numbers involved, then a little research is in order. And not merely from Steve Balmer-approved sources.
I suspect, however, that you already know that your claims are facile and that you are simply being a Troll.
"....I'm just not smart enough to figure out...."
At least that part of your post is true. I shall refrain from explaining why as at least half a dozen people have already done so.
So, this "news" is that some script kiddy exploited a vulnerability in a beta which MS were already aware of and had already coded the fix for (we can assume that as the full release the following day already had the fix - too soon for it to be a reaction to the hack)? I mean, I'm not a great fan of Microsoft but it does seem somewhat like a fuss about nothing.
Beta with a flaw, fixed for final release SHOCK!
Come on people, the flaw was in the beta version, the final release had measured that would have prevented the hack.
Oh and of course we all know that IE is the only browser that has ever had any security problems, oh no wait, Safari, Firefox, Chrome, Opera and every other browser out there is not water tight. Writing water tight code in something as complex and interactive as a browser is all but impossible, thankfully all the companies who release browsers regularly patch them to ensure security vulnerabilities are fixed.
It does get a little tiresome when people jump on the Microsoft is shit bandwagon time after time, without any balance. Microsoft = Shit. Apple, Mozilla, et all = wonderful software. It’s just not living in the real world.