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Who cares? Who will buy? 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 20:02 GMT

Linux

Nobody I reckon.

I've just seen a review of the latest Sony DSC-G3 camera, which has Linux & WiFi.

Weigh it, left hand/right hand:

SCO Openserver/Sony 10MP camera running 2.6.11 + WiFi + browser.

I think Linux won :-)

With a little assistance (groklaw)

Don't these guys ... 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 20:55 GMT

Stop

... owe Novell money?

If they have money for lawyers, they have money to pay up on what the courts said they owe.

If not, they should be found in contempt, and hauled away to the slammer.

Either way, the end of SCO is at hand.

It was cute and amusing to watch for a while - having them jump around and argue that they had X number of IP that were in violation, but never actually willing/able to actually tell anyone what IP it was. Now, however - its sad. In this economy, the money is better spent elsewhere.

Like in Novell's coffers.

*OAD, SCO.

Did they never read Dickens? 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 20:56 GMT

Have they never heard of Jarndyce v Jarndyce?

Re:Who cares? Who will buy? 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 20:58 GMT

Someone that wants to see litigation against Linux go on as long as is possible?

I offer £1 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 21:48 GMT

Happy

Just to bring it to an end.

Hope there's no reserve price 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 21:48 GMT

Then if the whole thing is sold for a few hundred dollars, SCO will finally have lost everything.

I know a buyer 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 21:57 GMT

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IBM

portrait of an open source patent troll 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 22:04 GMT

Linux

For those of you who dont know the whole story, AT&T made the source code of unix available to use by universities and business before the existence of open source licenses. They later sold the rights to the name unix to Novell, and then Novell sold it to SCO.

The first joke is that SCO is going after Linux which is not based on unix but rather minux which is an OS in a book of operating systems that was never intended to be used but rather teach OS concepts.

The second joke can be found in the last line of the article:

"Last year a US judge declared Novell the owner of Unix properties that SCO had claimed, and heaped further financial woe on the burdened company by ordering SCO to pay Novell $2.5m as part of his finding"

so...SCO has to pay Novell, ha ha ha naaah, dont think SCO will have an easy time being a patent troll with all the open flavors of unix, especially when there are still commercial unix flavors being marketed.

I'll give them... 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 22:38 GMT

Linux

£10 to roll over and die.

Rob

Hm... 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 23:10 GMT

"More to the point, though, the auction should ensure that the remainder of SCO can continue its legal fight free of the distractions of product development while raising much-needed cash to fund the battle."

So they're basically saying that product development is a distraction for them... the very thing that brings in money. The transformation to a patent troll is complete, then.

And just what do they hope to gain now? 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 23:16 GMT

Linux

Since they've already been told by a judge that they do in fact not own the UNIX IP that they claimed to own, which was the foundation of their case against IBM, you have to wonder why their action against IBM hasn't imploded yet. How can IBM have done anything against SCO if SCO in fact was neither the owner of the IP it's claimed IBM violated, nor did SCO have any standing to revoke IBM's perpetual and irrevocable license to use UNIX source code.

Normally you might wonder whether the lunatics are running the asylum, although in this case, the lunatics are running SCO.

no end to this madness? 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 23:33 GMT

Gates Horns

tired, I am of this

You know who is urging them to continue this right? 

Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 23:40 GMT

Linux

It's SCO's lawyers. They are living off the gravy train that SCO has pulled into their station and don't want it to end before they have sucked every last penny they can out of it. Hell if I were a leeching lawyer type and on these cases I wouldn't want them to end either so long as sugar daddy SCO is paying the bills. Gotta sell off a few assets, no big deal cos we neeeeed the money.. for.. umm... legal stuff.. yeah that's it.

I'm with the poster above and will chip in another ten bucks to buy it up and be done with all this nonsense.

Linux != Minux 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 00:19 GMT

Linux

Linus may have used Minux as a tool but Linux is different to Minux, ask Andrew Tannenbaum

The SCO Group NOT SCO 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 00:36 GMT

Pirate

Please call them by the right name, they are The SCO Group, not really anything to do with The Santa Cruz Operation, just Caldera renamed and living in the sewers.

I used to work for the proper SCO back in the early 90's and its highly embarrassing to have any association with these jokers.

Remember the Egyptians 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 00:55 GMT

I hope these guys follow the example of the pyramid builders i.e. they build a big fancy structure based on moving sand and when only one customer buys their product they get killed to keep the secret special.

Hmmm 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 01:01 GMT

Is IBM even taking SCO seriously. At this point just drag it out in court till SCO dies .

Arf! 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 03:37 GMT

SCO need a thesaurus entry. I'm thinking something along the lines of an Absolute and Unexplainable Catastrophe.

So lets get this straight, in the not so distant past instead of building upon the rather promising (at the time) Caldera distro and building a business around a future growth area, they instead decided to pursue the un-enlightening, stoical pastime of patent trolling and embark upon the worlds most severe course of self flagellation by choosing to sue everyone with a pulse. Can anyone explain that initial decision?

Now all that is left is a corporate Zombie, led by lawyers trying to initiate a profitable exit for the directors, whilst waiting for the final head shot.

What a hideous mess. Someone put it out of it's misery.

Note to ElReg: Can we have a stupicon for Pfft! and Arf! please? Ta.

Would you buy it? 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 08:01 GMT

Novell was declared the legal owner of a bunch of stuff SCO claimed to own... They are now selling some IP they claim to currently own, while also still trying to sue over other stuff they claim to own.

Now would you buy something from a company that isn't sure what they own? If so, I think I might own a few bridges, but I'm not sure. What to buy those too?

There goes the farm! 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 09:06 GMT

(Redundant commenty bit)

Time to end the scam, block the dam 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 09:48 GMT

Flame

"SCO Group has announced plans to auction off its Unix and mobile products to ensure their survival while continuing its long-running fight over alleged violations of its IP in Linux"

Or better put: SCO continues to asset strip itself to other family members (Darl's brother Kevin) who just so happen work for the lawyers they, by pure co-incidence, happen to be using.

Yes, they know they ain't got a hope, but they will get all the cash out before they go down.

Horse, Dead, Flogging 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 09:52 GMT

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Nothing (nice) to see here, move on please.

Doesn't time fly 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 10:40 GMT

"Last year a US judge declared Novell the owner of Unix properties that SCO had claimed" - nope, that was the year before last.

totally tired ? you will be. 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 10:53 GMT

Happy

This is far from over unfortunately.Will someone with a lot of money to invest just buy SCO and shut the place down ? Or we can start our own fundraising campaign with an objective : Shut Down SCO : collect funds and buy out SCO , then just shut it down.

They are a thorn in a toe , the insect in my soup , the hair in my sandwich , the onion on a little toe , the pebble in my shoe .. ( i can go on forever .. but ill spare you the agony )

BTW nice scoop .. Groklaw aint even posted anything on this :D

goooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REG

Can't even patent troll properly 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 11:38 GMT

Linux

To be a patent troll you need to have ambiguous patents, and then threaten people with them. SCO aren't doing that, because they don't have any ambiguous patents to troll with - they're going for copyright instead.

With no patents that can be used to troll with, they're going to have a hard time getting any money at all - their server products are as good as dead.

What on earth is the role of the state? 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 12:48 GMT

Alert

What on earth is the role of the state if not to stop this inane, petty, vindictive, baseless bullshit? When our judicial system is so badly broken as to allow this nonsense to clutter the courts without handing down a blanket ruling stripping them of their rights to either defend this IP or, better yet, to hold it in the first place, the system is broken. They've been beaten into the dust time and time again - Why waste taxpayer money allowing this to continue? What ever happened to common sense, and at what point is it cheaper to pay these people off and nationalize their "property" than to continue to fund their baseless, endless, and pointless litigation?

a dead horse is a lot of meat to rot off 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 14:24 GMT

Stop

The SCO lawyers are the ones that should be sued.

In the beginning you had to wonder about SCO's claims. But, as the facts were disclosed (thanks to Groklaw) it became obvious that SCO never had a case, SCO lawyers knew they never had a case and it was all about being a nuisance to IBM and others. And a bunch of money going to lawyers of course.

Now they get to sell whatever they can. But few are going to want their stuff.

Enough 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 14:31 GMT

Will somebody just put a stake through its (and Darl McBride's) heart? Please!

How can they be allowed to sell assets? 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 15:13 GMT

Surely they can't sell assets before paying what they owe to Novell? Or will the bits being sold inherit all or part of the debt to Novell?

Perfect Timing, really 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 15:28 GMT

Flame

SCO dies when Windows 7 is born. Many have postulated that MS needed a distraction to allow time for them to develop a proper OS. W7 is upon the near horizon, so is SCO's demise. Will there be any evidence left to be found to support the theory that MS supported SCO?

A "Fire Sale" may be in the offing.

wait...... 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 15:55 GMT

Stop

I'm sort of surprised that this hasn't been spotted and commented on.... They are selling off all of the rights to products/development, which means that strictly speaking they no longer be in the OS business at all, merely a company with a 100% patent trolling core business. Now, just a thought, wouldn't it be up to the new owners to sue or not, as they see fit, rather than the up to the dregs of Caldera/SCO Group ? Don't you have ot be engaged in exploiting a patent in order to sue someone else ? What's a company buying into this going to get a license to flog and develop, "....and we promise not to sue you if it all goes pear shaped down the line." , whilst the trolls retain the actual goods ? Who would want to be a SCO Group employee in that climate ?

Answers to the above on the back of a postage stamp....

Secondly, is it theirs to sells, would this be covered by their agreement with Novell or do the rights lapse back to Novell ? In any event this would give them money to pay what they owe to Novell, which clearly isn't part of the SCO plan..... Novell need to get their own lawyers to head this one off at the pass, before SCO Group suddenly find money to prolong this further whilst welching on exiting judgments......

Reminds me of a poster 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 17:30 GMT

Stop

"Quitters never win, winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots."

http://demotivators.com/stup24x30pri.html

Their "core" business? 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 17:43 GMT

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So if they sell off the Unix division... they can focus on their core business of... being a Patent Troll?

For maximum entertainment.. 

Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 18:14 GMT

Alien

Let SCO sell their remaining stuff, only to get sued by IBM and Novell for infringing their IP.

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