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BBC Micro Model B next 

Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 00:09 GMT

Here's hoping.

As if Slowaris is not slow enough..put it on Atom 

Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 05:40 GMT

Stop

As if there are not enough drivers for Slowaris...how about atom

And who would ever put solaris on a netbook?

I thought Sun was finally getting smart and killing stupid projects?

LA Woman

OpenSolaris on a Netbook 

Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 14:11 GMT

Heart

I'm running OpenSolaris on a EeePC, and it runs just fine... I'm looking forward to get even better support.

There is even a mailing list for users like me.

Who cares? (Or, Why not share and win?) 

Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 15:14 GMT

Stop

The question I've never seen answered about OpenSolaris is this: Who cares?

Sun and open source are uneasy companions. There are a few features present in OpenSolaris that aren't present in Linux (or *BSD, for that matter), but these features aren't sufficient to overcome concerns about the sustainability of the OpenSolaris effort, considering the small size of the community and the strong control exerted by Sun.

A vibrant community is essential to the commercial acceptance of an open source software solution, because it ensures competition between support providers; aids in expansion of hardware support, software compatibility, and testing; and bodes well for long-term support.

It would be better for Sun to license technologies such as ZFS in such a way that they could be incorporated into other open source kernels, and leverage the large and diverse developer and support communities around those kernels.

Re: As if Slowaris is not slow enough..put it on Atom 

Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 15:32 GMT

Happy

Slow? Really? If works a damn sight faster on my 2Gb laptop than Vista does.

Define 'slow', or is this just 'word of mouth'. Oh, of course, linux doesn't have ZFS .....

cool - now I want a zfs-enabled nas 

Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 16:29 GMT

this is good news. now somebody needs to put together a nice little 4 bay nas running opensolaris and zfs by default. make it torrent-competent and have some media-server run on it an it will be killa!

RE: As if Slowaris is not slow enough..put it on Atom 

Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 17:48 GMT

Happy

Well, there are embedded versions of Slowaris, so maybe this is Ponytail hoping someone in the open community will write him a smartphone OS. Can't quite see who would be interested, but you never know, sillier things have happened.

ZFS Home NAS on LF2 

Posted Thursday 25th December 2008 00:47 GMT

Everything works out of the box with Opensolaris 2008.11 on a 945GCLF2, except I seem to have attached the sata drives as legacy cmdk rather than sata framework sd. I'll look into that at some point. Works fine either way. Only a 2 drive ZFS NAS, not a 4 though. Ask for a better motherboard?

and "better supported" means? 

Posted Thursday 25th December 2008 05:25 GMT

So what's the difference besides a recompile?

And when you have to install Solaris AND a ton of open-source stuff to make it useful, why not just install Linux/*BSD?

Last time I was masochistic enough to deal with Solaris, it didn't even have a compiler any more... is that still true?

Opensource software and compiler 

Posted Saturday 27th December 2008 10:43 GMT

Black Helicopters

There is a ton of opensource software available for (Open)Solaris. The Sun Studio compiler was free for a long time. And you can use also crappy GCC if you wish...

The problem nowadays is that software is written for Linux and does not follow any standards (e.g. POSIX), which makes it a little harder to port software to other platforms.

Linux people are pissed that Microsoft (and now Apple) do not follow standards, but they are repeating the same mistakes...

It's just too easy to blame Opensolaris for other peoples ignorance...

@AC 

Posted Saturday 27th December 2008 11:25 GMT

Why would I want to install Solaris instead of Linux? How about - a huge pedigree of datacentre operations, trusted and certified security with a real support model? No?

You should maybe go and read up on processor architectures - it's way more than just a recompile if you're going for uberperformance.

Perhaps you didn't have the skills to install the necessary packages. Never mind - you just run back to your little pretend OSs and leave the real ones to those who can actually follow installation documentation.

There aren't many (any?) real securable operating systems that come with compilers as standard.

You can add them if you require - that's the beauty of modular systems.

Not so slow anymore 

Posted Saturday 27th December 2008 22:49 GMT

The 'Slowlaris' tag was appropriate when Solaris was first introduced and misguided souls attempted running it on their 20MHz SPARCstation 1s, but it hasn't been the case for 10 to 15 years. Anyone suggesting otherwise really needs a reality check. I have a 170 MHz SS5 here that I still use regularly (like the keyboard) and OpenSolaris just flies - it is fast enough for day to day use. A few apps (OpenOffice and Firefox) take a few seconds to start but once open it isn't a problem.

And yes, there are some good reasons to run it - many of the purely free OS's, Linux included, are slightly rough around the edges. OpenSolaris is polished in comparison. We're not talking about anything major, but for example man pages properly reflect reality and file locations. Not always true elsewhere, especially with some of the Linux distributions.

RE: and "better supported" means? 

Posted Sunday 28th December 2008 11:04 GMT

Heart

My, my. You have been away a while. Opensolaris ships with GCC, as does Solaris 10. Heck, you can even get Sun's own C compilers with Opensolaris. Having used SunOS/Solaris since 1985, I'm pretty sure that if I need it, I can compile it. (Sound is the only real bug bear)

Had to add software to Solaris? 

Posted Friday 2nd January 2009 09:10 GMT

Wow the "pkgadd" command is too complicated I guess. Oh wait -- you would have to know what packages were instead of just spouting off about them. and BTW --- In solaris you can both add AND REMOVE packages successfully. Also you don't have to use different package managers for software from different projects. If you just want to have some entitiy on the other side of the Internet load you up sight-unseen then you need WIndows

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