By mittfhPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 00:09 GMT
Please tell me someone's looking into the chappie that signs his emails as coming from Plaza Neptuno, local #7 in Panama and offers fake versions of OpenOffice, Google Earth etc....
His emails always land directly in my Junk Mail folder (with nice high SpamAssassin scores), but no doubt some newbies are tempted into visiting his sites...
"216 items that are dangerous to your reputation" #
By David WiernickiPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 04:43 GMT
WTF? Who looks at that and says, "Oh no! Two hundred SIXTEEN? I'd better do something!" without wondering how this program knows which things are dangerous and how?
Oh well... I guess it's pointless to ask those questions. But I do nonetheless.
By David WilkinsonPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 05:50 GMT
Lately half the non hardware problems I have dealt with is from scareware infections. These people use computers for work ... its not their hobby or profession.
All those website's need to be sued. They in turn need to sue the ad brokers ... the ad brokers then need to host every ad and check every link to avoid being sued.
How hard would it be for a knowledgeable human to determine that these ads were point to illegal software. From a virutal machine ... visit the site ... run their tests ... 5-20 min to detect scam like this ... 3-4 min to restore virtual machine to a prior snapshot.
Actual even less time because you'd report your results to some site or other ... and you'd have checked that site ....
At some point someone has to be responsible for the content of a website including its ads.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 08:49 GMT
"some of the world's most popular sites, including those belonging to Major League Baseball, the National Hockey League, The Economist, E-Harmony, and Zillow.com"
Nope. Never heard of them / been to them. Perhaps you mean "the USA's most popular sites"?
By JonathanPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 08:50 GMT
I think, the 216 is meant to seem more legitimate than a 'arbitary round number'.
In many ways, scareware is worse than malware, it has taken a long time to get average joe to take their compy's security seriously; many still remain ignorant. Those who now do, get shafted if they don't know where or who to look for a legitimate service. Its the same psychology as phishing. Dupe the weakest link, the human.
By I. AproveofitspendingonspecificprojectsPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 09:22 GMT
Wouldn't it be cheaper even quietly remunerative for national agencies to ensure that potential computer users are not brain dead.
Anyone can make a mistake but the young and inexperienced and the old and unsuspecting see the world the way it is supposed to be.
Perhaps if no-one was allowed to use a computer before they were seasoned or at least well informed, OK... that will never happen but at the moment the TV companies are desperate for advertisers. I can't stand another ASDA Krizzmaazz ad...
Couldn't the public information people wind up to this century? I know that is asking a lot from Her Majesty's Govt. but ...ah...
Feckit!
Come to think of it, how come you never see the Music Industry advertising antipiracy? Is it that they don't want to give the young and inexperienced and the old and unsuspecting ideas?
How about a knicker elastic warning icon? I am getting fed up with clicking on cheap trollop icons every second post.
By Steven JonesPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 10:35 GMT
Using civil law to sue people for stuff like this is not enough. The perpetrators of this were engaged in an atempt to extract money through fraud. It's the criminal law that needs to be thrown at these people. Maybe the threat of a prison sentence might deter them.
That's not to say that the ad brokers don't have some civil liabilities if they are being negligent in checking.
As for those people who suggest that nobody with their wits about them would have fallen for this. Well there are many, many people for whom a computer is a tool, and not an obsession, and they have a right (at the very least) to expect those perpetrating fraud to be dealt with appropriately and for systems and suppliers to at least use due diligence in vetting their customers. We wouldn't tolerate con-men making door-to-door calls, nor should we accept this sort of thing.
it's not like we'll miss them and it's not like they are doing anything useful. Once you start to shoot them, others will think again and if they don't we'll shoot them too.
Whether you're a cyber criminal stealing peoples' money, a rapist, a murder or a credit card skimmer (etc), we don't need you and it's expensive to pay for your upkeep in jail so we'll shoot you. Sounds more than reasonable to me.
By David WiernickiPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 12:46 GMT
I look forward to the day when a misinformed witness lands you in front of the firing squad for a crime you didn't commit - who needs appeals and judicial due process anyway! If you're in court, you're obviously guilty!
Hell, if you're going to assume that the courts never make a mistake in convicting someone, you might as well assume that the police never make a mistake in ARRESTING someone. Do away with those nasty, pesky trials altogether. Yay!
doubt they'll lock them up as the justiceless system never learns #
By Simon BPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 12:50 GMT
But will they lock them up this time? probably not! crime pays too much
By MarkPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 14:35 GMT
Got to agree with the poster who suggests shooting them.
Life's cheap, as a society we are quite happy to let perfectly innocent people starve to death in large numbers, so why the f*ck don't we shoot more of the useless time-wasting tw*ts who contribute nothing.
By Lionel BadenPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 16:12 GMT
Well the company i work at manages multiple business's and i know at lease 5 different places that got shfted by these.
But on the bright side the boss was very pleased with me because i was able to get the computers up and running in a short period of time.
So this worked out well for me :) but yeah now its a pain in the butt.
But still its gets me work so again im not to bothered. god my life would be boring if all i fixed were occasional software glitches and the odd hardware faliure
By Cameron ColleyPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 16:24 GMT
There is one slight problem with what you are saying -- if those who "use computers for work" are getting these infections then their IT guy is obviously not setting their machines up correctly.
While I have no problem with these scammers and business partners being sued and/or arrested any company spending even a moderate amount on security should be almost immune to this kind of attack -- and anyone using the internet in this day and age ought to know it's not all safe and use a healthy amount of scepticism and mistrust.
By kain preacherPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 16:36 GMT
some of the world's most popular sites, including those belonging to Major League Baseball, the National Hockey League, The Economist, E-Harmony, and Zillow.com"
Nope. Never heard of them / been to them. Perhaps you mean "the USA's most popular sites"?
Hmm lets see
Major League Baseball,
Well that only includes most of south America and countries like Japan. But hey dont let that get in the way of a good rant.
By Apocalypse LaterPosted Thursday 11th December 2008 17:15 GMT
It doesn't count really, not in relation to the "world's most popular" anything. There aren't that many Canadians. Do Russian's play hockey? They have ice, and maniacs.
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Next stop, Panama... #
By mittfh Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 00:09 GMT
"216 items that are dangerous to your reputation" #
By David Wiernicki Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 04:43 GMT
Lost of people fall for this stuff.... #
By David Wilkinson Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 05:50 GMT
world <> USA #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 08:49 GMT
@David #
By Jonathan Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 08:50 GMT
Learning Curves #
By I. Aproveofitspendingonspecificprojects Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 09:22 GMT
Suing is not enough #
By Steven Jones Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 10:35 GMT
simple solution #
By AC Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 11:37 GMT
@AC #
By David Wiernicki Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 12:46 GMT
doubt they'll lock them up as the justiceless system never learns #
By Simon B Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 12:50 GMT
Shoot Em #
By Mark Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 14:35 GMT
@ Simple Solution #
By Lee Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 15:01 GMT
work .. #
By Lionel Baden Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 16:12 GMT
RE: Lost of people fall for this stuff.... #
By Cameron Colley Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 16:24 GMT
AC December 2008 08:49 GMT #
By kain preacher Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 16:36 GMT
Canada is a nice place, but... #
By Apocalypse Later Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 17:15 GMT