By Anonymous CowardPosted Friday 28th November 2008 18:11 GMT
what I predicted on the Register few weeks ago. I saw the article in Sunday Times about the
chip and pin machines in Supermarkets that had a Chip installed on them by the Chinese mafia that sent all details of credit cards to a phone number in Pakistan. I suggested then that there
are likely many many more of these root kits on hard drives produced in China and Far East
than we care to believe. I think that there is a major issue here and the S**** will eventually hit the fan.
By jonPosted Saturday 29th November 2008 19:09 GMT
the 'hidden' directories are actually hidden at the kernel level, not with the hidden filesystem flag. It requires running linux to spot these directories as they as all masked within MS's products. A quick google shows it's a special name like \System32\$sys$filesystem
By KarlThPosted Sunday 30th November 2008 20:54 GMT
...they probably were - once you've got your own code running in the kernel you can make the OS hide anything. But "hidden directory" has a specific meaning within a Windowsbox, so it's a tad misleading. Just wanted to clarify.
What if you slave the drive off another system? Will the unrootkitted OS see it? I'm trying to get an angle on what's being done here.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Monday 1st December 2008 11:35 GMT
...that it seems the prerequisite for this rootkit is another piece of malware called "Windows." (definition of malware: software which keeps you from using your computer the way you want to)
Because it first appeared on UNIX style systems (the "root" part of rootkit..... geddit?).
Not only is Linux/UNIX very vulnerable to this sort of malware, it started there, as KarlTh hints at, the only sure-fire way of detecting one is to mount the hard drive on a system that wasn't booted from it.
I fixed a Linux PC about four months ago that got rooted, it was built specifically (Ubuntu/Open Office) for a novice use and was assured to be 'invulnrable' from viruses (meaning malware), but oddly enough was turned into a spam relay that didn't have any mail relaying processes listed during a ps listing, nor anything in the startup, the files were invisible until you booted off a (in this case) USB Linux boot disk.
There are thousands of pieces of malware (virus/trojan/worm) for Linux/UNIX, if it ever became popular for the home market, which it isn't, then it will be targeted more agressively, more importantly if a single flavour (Ubuntu?) became more popular (like OSX) then then a common set of predictable interfaces (like Win32 has) would mean easier spread.
By PierrePosted Monday 1st December 2008 15:42 GMT
"it was built specifically (Ubuntu/Open Office) for a novice use and was assured to be 'invulnrable' from viruses (meaning malware), but oddly enough was turned into a spam relay that didn't have any mail relaying processes listed during a ps listing, nor anything in the startup, the files were invisible until you booted off a (in this case) USB Linux boot disk."
That my dear sir means there has been some incredibly sloppy sysadmining going on...
And it smells suspiciously like lame (at best, so-so) problem fixing, too.
Not that Linux (or any OS, for that matter) is immune to that kind of things, but I wouldn't write "very vulnerable" either.
Comments on: Rootkit unearthed in network security software
Your AV scanner sucks. #
By Robert Moore Posted Friday 28th November 2008 16:03 GMT
This is exactly ..... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 28th November 2008 18:11 GMT
Hidden folder? #
By KarlTh Posted Friday 28th November 2008 23:32 GMT
re KarlTh #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Saturday 29th November 2008 12:55 GMT
you are belong to us #
By Sillyfellow Posted Saturday 29th November 2008 19:01 GMT
kernel not meta flags #
By jon Posted Saturday 29th November 2008 19:09 GMT
@kernel not meta flags #
By tony trolle Posted Sunday 30th November 2008 03:28 GMT
Who do you trust? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Sunday 30th November 2008 08:59 GMT
why do i feel uneasy when reading #
By vincent himpe Posted Sunday 30th November 2008 15:35 GMT
I thought... #
By KarlTh Posted Sunday 30th November 2008 20:54 GMT
Just to remind everybody... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 1st December 2008 11:35 GMT
The Broodwich? #
By Marc Posted Monday 1st December 2008 14:17 GMT
Linux (f)lameboys #
By Mike Posted Monday 1st December 2008 14:40 GMT
Rootkit on the Buntu (Mike) #
By Pierre Posted Monday 1st December 2008 15:42 GMT