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Breathing? 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 01:46 GMT

Joke

I wonder - has anyone patented breathing yet?

I can feel a lawsuit coming on

Just break an XML rule 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 01:49 GMT

then it is not XML.

Problem solved.

burn em at the stake 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 02:16 GMT

other than that move along, nothing to see etc

Real Estate 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 02:23 GMT

Thumb Down

Right down there with car salesmen, lawyers, the RIAA, MPAA and other pond life.

Am I misunderstanding this? 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 02:43 GMT

Unless I'm reading this wrong (I haven't read the patent) it would seem that they're describing a page slicing approach, whereby an intermediary process breaks a full page into manageable chunks for a small display browser. AFAIK, that's not how Mobile Safari works though. I think Safari is pretty close to a standard HTML renderer. In other words, is this troll going after the wrong company?

Great .. 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 04:46 GMT

Happy

Apple has enough money to fight this all the way. Maybe it will set a precedent that will let people automatically dismiss patent clams like this. Maybe the courts will rule that the law supports the patent troll.

If that's the case it wouldn't be to hard to convince people those kinds of patents are hurting innovation and maybe get some patent law reform.

The only bad outcome is a secret out of court settlement. Doesn't help define the rules, no one even knows the exact deal that was struck... keeps the FUD going.

I hope apple pushes this as far as they can, if they drop the suit, apple needs to countersue.

@adam 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 05:47 GMT

It is standard patent trolling to sue over a similar but not actually applicable patent. And in east Texas, its unlikely that the judge will care, or understand.

A rose by another other name is still covered in fertiliser 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 08:27 GMT

Joke

"Elliot Gottfurcht" - Has he lived with that name all his life? Give him a break!!

(In case anyone didn't realise, it sounds like "Elliot got fscked")

Eh?? 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 08:34 GMT

Stop

1) Pretty sure the Safari on the iPhone doesn't need a proxy to convert html to xml

2) Opera Mini does do this and has for some years

3) I did this in 2001 for a degree thesis. Damn shame I didn't patent it

The world has gone mad, but then we knew that.

Obviously the house market crisis is biting hard..

It's about time big, rich companies acted like big rich companies do in the movies. 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 09:26 GMT

Joke

After three or four assassinations, the level of these frivolous law suits would fall dramatically.

@Adam Starkey 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 09:43 GMT

Mobile Safari does use an internal tile-based caching mechanism for the rendered result of the page, maybe the plaintiff is trying to claim that involves some sort of XML slicing - even though it clearly doesn't?

To the article author: I think most of the Apple cult are consumers, not actual employees. So they're not actually being sued.

It's not what you know 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 12:10 GMT

Black Helicopters

It's who you know. As I recall the firm that usually represents the Trolls has, in the firm, the son of the judge who usually hears them.

@Ross Fleming 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 13:24 GMT

If you did this in a 2001 degree thesis, dig it out and sell it to Jobs - prior art and all that...

Oh nose.... 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 13:38 GMT

Unhappy

Not another dogshit RAMBUS wannabee.

Maybe he needs to sue w3c 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 15:55 GMT

Pirate

For daring to publish the xml DTD

Opera have been doing this longer 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 16:47 GMT

With Opera Mini. Oh wait, they don't have as much money as Apple do they?

LucasArts 

Posted Tuesday 25th November 2008 19:03 GMT

Unhappy

LucasArts were sued in a Texas court by someone who claimed a patent on the MATRICES used by computer games to transform objects.

They came up with prior art going back to the 17th century and were told by the judge "I do not want to hear any technical arguments in my court".

They lost.

They had to pay an amount equivalent to the best five year profit the entire Lucas organization had ever made.

Apple can't necessarily fight this just because they're a big company.

Opera Mini vs. XML 

Posted Wednesday 26th November 2008 00:34 GMT

Alert

"Opera Mini does do this and has for some years"

Opera Mini doesn't reformat to or read XML. It uses some kind of binary language.

Idea... 

Posted Wednesday 26th November 2008 11:38 GMT

Let's get ourselves down to the US patent office and patent the 'apparatus and method of granting stupid and vague patents with no real substance, which serve no purpose other than to stifle creativity by leaving genuine innovators open to vacuous lawsuits'.

That way in future we can sue the US patent office for creating these stupid situations.

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