By Donald MillerPosted Thursday 20th November 2008 13:53 GMT
I found the hard way that SanDisks U3 writes a segment to appear to be another CD player, and all Windows before Vista install it as such with Autorun Enabled BY DEFAULT, so that crap U3 is then installed and changes your disk assignments while it hunts for stuff to put on your SanDisk web account! There a lot of old sticks out there with the shit still on them, but I remove them from service with a hammer when I find them. And if your data disappears, tough tittie.
By A J StilesPosted Thursday 20th November 2008 14:08 GMT
Surely the US Army would have specified "access to the Source Code" as a show-stopping precondition when they ordered their Operating Systems. So why can't they just compile Windows without USB support and have done with it?
you can disable autorun globally for any windows system you can use group policies on, even if it is not joined into a domain.
start-> run -> gpedit.msc
(if youre running xp home... tough luck.. no such file exists... didn't try on vista home, maybe you're SOL here too)
so.. in GPedit
navigate to Local Computer policy -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System
and set the entry named "Turn off Autoplay" to enabled, with autoplay disabled globally for ALL DRIVES (default is only cdrom drives but with policy not applied)
if you set autoplay disabled for all drives it will stay disabled even for yet-unknown devices that will be connected in the future.
By StevePosted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:34 GMT
This is exactly why off the shelf devices need to be used with care. If there is really a need for USB connectivity the military should just define their own incompatible USB connector, and provide suitable devices (with built-in crypto?) for those who need them. That, and fill the standard USB ports on their PCs with epoxy glue...
Of course, that is why they end up paying $400 for a hammer, but security doesn't come free...
By Jason TogneriPosted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:21 GMT
I'm amazed that people constantly forget about the useful and sometimes extremely powerful built-in diagnostic and administrative tools in Windows (2000 and up, particularly XP, don't know about Vista), such as gpedit.msc, services.msc, msconfig, etc. While it's true that I don't widely advertise these to users who are likely to do more harm than good, any sysadmin worth his/her/its salt surely knows about and how to use these tools. They can do most things that any third-party admin utility can do; granted, the interfaces aren't always intuitive or user-friendly, but you'd think they'd tweak the settings (via reg or bat, maybe) and either make a profile or a user image that they'd roll out on new machines with these settings already in place. It's not like any of this is new; welcome to 2002 (XP) or 1999 (Win2K).
By Geoff MackenziePosted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:29 GMT
First, @AC 1545: there is nothing wrong with "US Army bans USB devices to contain worm". Contain is a verb.
Secondly, @Steve, Re: "security doesn't come free" - see OpenBSD.
@ ac - What does the subject of this article actually mean? #
By Anonymous CowardPosted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:34 GMT
contain in this sense it to prevent it spreading, like you quarantine people to contain a disease.
because usb drive may begin not having the worm but plug it into a computer which does then it gets it and it can spread onto any other computers that may not be infected
By CharlesPosted Thursday 20th November 2008 17:31 GMT
Custom software that runs on Windows and Windows only (as in it's a WINO--WINE is NOT an OPTION). And getting all the existing Windows-custom software recoded may be difficult if not impossible due to either technical restrictions (since the firm that made it may not do Unix or may not exist anymore) or contractual obligations.
By Donald MillerPosted Thursday 20th November 2008 18:25 GMT
GPedit.msc is in both XP Pro and XP MediaCenter, and it didn't work against U3 on either system. As I said, Vista asks (IF you've not disabled this prompt) if you want to allow U3 to run, so I never bothered to look for GPedit until now. Anybody have any idea what version of Windows the Army uses? Anybody want to bet most of their IT management staff has heard of GPedit.msc? And on this Vista Home Premium SP1 machine neither GPedit.msc or HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\NoDriveTypeAutoRun exists, and I'm not going to experiment with adding it since U3 can be killed without it.
By Andy BrightPosted Thursday 20th November 2008 22:28 GMT
.. too late, why bother? And seeing as 99.99% of worms are caught via un-firewalled internet connections, banning the use of usb thumb drives doesn't seem likely to prevent another infection.
Such a temporary ban would cause inconvenience in any organisation #
By SootyPosted Friday 21st November 2008 09:28 GMT
not in any vaguely security conscious organisation at least, as they already have a ban on these sorts of things.
By John WilliamsPosted Sunday 23rd November 2008 14:51 GMT
So far, nobody's mentioned TweakUI, which makes it easy to turn off autorun on selected drive types or letters. One caveat is that if you deselect removable drive types it will still do autorun on external USB drives, which is a PITA if the drive contains many JPG files. The best solution is to deselect autorun on all drive letters which may mount USB drives.
Comments on: US Army bans USB devices to contain worm
U3 bypasses disabled Autorun #
By Donald Miller Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 13:53 GMT
Huh? #
By A J Stiles Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 14:08 GMT
Oh dear #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:00 GMT
autorun can be globally disabled #
By G2 Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:06 GMT
TANSTAAFL #
By Steve Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:34 GMT
@A J Stiles #
By It wasnt me Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:44 GMT
What does the subject of this article actually mean? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:45 GMT
Another way to disable autorun globally #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:49 GMT
Stage One of cleanup. #
By Tanuki Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:55 GMT
@ autorun can be globally disabled #
By Jason Togneri Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:21 GMT
Two points... #
By Geoff Mackenzie Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:29 GMT
@ ac - What does the subject of this article actually mean? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:34 GMT
Stop using Windows #
By Michael Fremlins Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:39 GMT
@AC "What does ... mean?" #
By Nick Lord Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 17:26 GMT
@Michael Fremlins #
By Charles Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 17:31 GMT
gpedit.msc #
By Donald Miller Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 18:25 GMT
They allow USB on classified networks? #
By Chris Miller Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 18:52 GMT
Anyone else thinking.. #
By Andy Bright Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 22:28 GMT
Such a temporary ban would cause inconvenience in any organisation #
By Sooty Posted Friday 21st November 2008 09:28 GMT
TeakUI Anyone? #
By John Williams Posted Sunday 23rd November 2008 14:51 GMT
Secure your data! #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 26th November 2008 12:55 GMT