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Project Alchemy #

By E Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 02:08 GMT

Speaking as an unreconstructed C and C++ programmer (C-octothorpe? Wha' that?) I like the idea of writing C/C++ for Flash. K&R perfected programming syntax and semantics 30+ years ago - one language to rule them all and one language to bind them I say!

But... unless Adobe manages to wedge POSIX, libc and MS's C library, the STL and (please oh please) Boost into Flash most of those millions and millions of lines of existing C/C++ code are not going to be terribly useful to Flash programmers.

If, on the other hand, Adobe is going to expose the WIN32 C API and co., or libc, inside Flash then all Adobe will have achieved is to make Flash as dangerous as ActiveX (or whatever MS is calling ActiveX these days!)

Editor: you need a hand icon with the thumb horizontal.

C++ on a VM? #

By Sentient Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 07:15 GMT

"Adobe now wants to make that code accessible to Flash Player and AIR."

Let them tackle boost first and then I'll be interested.

Que? #

By S Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 07:46 GMT

"client-side code talking to Microsoft's C# language via the Adobe Action Message Format (AMF)"

What on earth does it mean to be talking to the C# language?

@E #

By Tom Chiverton Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 13:02 GMT

There is limit'ed POSIX support by default, I think, and if you want to staticly link in the whole STL or what have you, feel free.

re: Que? #

By Jon Kale Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 14:35 GMT

It means "I don't understand this press-release, so I'm cutting and pasting bits together as fast as I can in the hope no-one will notice."

See also "One possible application: Bringing over games authored in C and C++ to Flash". Adobe's page announcing Alchemy announces (I suspect optimistically), "anywhere from 2-10x slower than native C/C++ code". I for one bow before our new 2 FPS gaming overlords...

lib vorbis ? #

By lord_farquaad Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 17:42 GMT

"Alchemy also lets you play Ogg Vorbis and Lib Vorbis that were previously unable to run in the Flash Player or AIR"

What is Lib Vorbis ? Isn't that rather a port of libvorbis that allows to play Ogg Vorbis content ?

title is optional #

By neil hanvey Posted Tuesday 2nd December 2008 15:11 GMT

semi colon semi colon strict strict strict - hmm my c#'s not what it used to be.

all credit to adobe for trying but unless they can create some format that can be quickly edited in notepad i don't think it will ever replace good old fashioned coded pages (same goes for silverShite)

paris - because we all like to see her flash (arf arf)