Sun Java piggybacks Microsoft searchbar, divorces Google
The old checked-by-default trick
Sun is now distributing Microsoft's Live Search toolbar atop its Java Runtime Environment, after parting ways with Google's browserware.
According to Sun's press release, Internet Explorer users downloading Sun's JRE "have the option" of downloading the MSN toolbar too. But it's worth noting that the install-Microsoft-app button is checked by default. Sun automatically loads Redmond's browserware unless you specifically tell it not to.
"All our toolbar deals are opt-out - so MSFT toolbar will be opt-out as well. Box will be checked but user can decline to download it," a company spokeswoman told us.
That's right, Sun has a history of piggybacking additional software atop Java downloads, including its very own OpenOffice software suite and Yahoo!'s search toolbar for Mozilla's FireFox browser.
As you can see, the install-Yahoo!-app button is checked by default too:
JRE piggybacks Yahoo!
And things work much the same way with OpenOffice.
This is isn't nearly as sneaky as Apple slipping its second-rate Safari browser onto PCs via its software updater. But it would be nice if Sun (and so many others) didn't play these games with naive netizens.
Sun wouldn't tell us how much Microsoft was paying the company to distribute the MSN toolbar. But you can bet it would pay a lot less if that box wasn't checked by default.
We commend Sun for eventually acknowledging that its MSN-atop-Java setup is opt-out. But we do find it amusing that so many companies like to play both sides of this issue. When we first discussed the Microsoft tie-up with Sun's Eric Klein - the man who announced that Sun would put Java on the Jesus Phone without checking Apple's anti-Java EULA - he insisted that Redmond's toolbar was opt-in only.
Until today, JRE also piggybacked Google's browser toolbar. But as it makes room for Redmond, Sun has divorced the Mountain View ad broker. Sun Java will attempt to install the MSN toolbar only if you're in the US and you have Internet Explorer installed. According to Sun, JRE was downloaded 525 million times over the past twelve months. And this number leaps by about 65 per cent each year. ®
@B: Safari isn't noted as being one of the best browsers, that's pretty widely accepted, I know many Mac users who easily choose Firefox over it, so maybe you're the one who needs to get over it, but, you know, use what you like. I just prefer a browser that didn't crash a lot is all, and that was my experience with it, not to mention I just don't care about Safari any way and like Firefox and it's features and plug-ins much better, but to each their own.
@Darren B: I like your response the best. Who in the hell ever installs these stupid toolbars any way? I'm very capable of clicking on my Firefox quick search box thank you, I don't need a massive bar taking up page real estate, let alone ads if any.
Penguin, cause it's shit like this that I love not having to deal with, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I have to start complaining too as Linux becomes more ad targeted. ;)
"Christ, Sun, Apple, Google and Microsoft are as bad as each other some times!"
OK, we've got the Jesus phone, but surely that's as close as Christ gets to being as bad as the others. It's Christian (funda)mentalists that piggyback bigotry, extreme right wing politics et al on the back of a message of peace and love, not the Guv'nor.
I wish there was a law about NOT installing programs that are not necessary for the programs you are installing. It is what a trojan program does, and it reduces the value of the program being installed - and reduces the consumer confidence in that company.