Italy, Poland threaten veto on EU green package
Eco versus economics
Italy and Poland have threatened to veto the EU's proposed new measures against climate change. The two nations argue that their economies cannot stand the costs of the green legislation as it now stands.
EU Observer quotes Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi, announcing his intention to block the plans, as saying:
"Our businesses are in absolutely no position at the moment to absorb the costs of the regulations that have been proposed."
Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorksi took a similar line, saying that "Poland is ready to veto if there are attempts to force us to accept the climate-change package in the next month."
His colleague Europe minister Mikolaj Dowgielewicz left the door open for negotiations, however.
"We certainly don't see the conditions for early agreement if we don't find better burden-sharing inside the package," he said.
French president Nicholas Sarkozy, current holder of the rotating EU presidency, suggested that the Italians were also taking a negotiating posture and would come round in the end.
"There is some room for flexibility," he said.
European Commission head Jose Manuel Barroso also hinted that some of the green measures could be watered down in order to get an agreement.
"We have to be frank - the situation is difficult. There was a lot of pressure that we should be more prudent, more cautious," he told reporters.
The EU Observer report is here. ®
you're listening to the voices in your head
odd youshould claim I counted temerature irrelevant to GW when I posted the statement "it all yuou hat was temperature ... how owuld you be able to tell the midsummer date"
Ten years isnn't climate.
Even using temeratures.
I notice you haven't taken the data adn found tourself the anwer to "what counts as climate"
Heck, I shopuldn't be suprised, you don't even have the balls to use your name here.
Unless Mrs Coward WAS your momma.
Step up to the plate
Are you really saying that temp isn't relevant to GW?
The offer of $500K is genuine. So why don't you take it up? go to Junkscience.com. Enter your details and because you have the proof the money is yours. Simple.
You trust NASA? the 3000 bouys they launched into the oceans ALL, and that is in total ALL, have consistently returned values which show the temperature is falling. Their measurement of sea ice for both the Arctic and Antarctic shows huge levels of new ice from last year onwards. The troposphere shows no sign of warming. The satellite global temp records show no temp rise at all.
1997 being the warmest summer ever? No. The warmest was 1934 and five of the ten warmest on record are prior to 1940.
Fact. The hockey stick is hockum. Proved over and over again. Mann won't even debate it or provide the actual methods of how he achieved it.
No warming. It may even get colder, a lot colder. The sad part of this is that the poor of the world are going to suffer because of bad environmentalist politics. They already have less food than before and we are all paying more for food and power.
They are readily available.
Do you have anything that proves it doesn't exist?
NOTE: don't try the old weather = climate gag. It's real old. Think of this: if you had temperature as your ONLY guide and the idea that maximum temperature was at midsummer, how many years worth of data would you have to collect to be 95% certain of getting midsummer date right within a week of June 22nd.
It'd be getting on for 50 years.
Figures you can independently test for yourself. No need to trust me. Trust yourself.