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A bug? My arse 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 09:30 GMT

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They've been caught mis-rating CDOs and so are blaming it on a bug; how convenient. And who will they be disciplining, the coders or the QA team?

Aktually 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 10:18 GMT

Stop

It was a bug - they didn't annualise monthly volatility, thowing their assumptions off by a factor of sqrt(12).

The scandal was that once they spotted the error, they then changed the ratings process so that it got rated AAA anyway. They actually discarded a proposed change because "it didn't help the rating".

And yes, the head of structured finance got fired, not (just) some idiot coder.

'A bug' 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 10:40 GMT

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Riiiight. So it had nothing to do with Moody's competing with other ratings agencies such as S&Ps for business, and essentially offering higher ratings in return for this business? Or indeed, being slack in their jobs and not bothering to really explore the possible risks of these financial instruments? Covering their arses after the fact, more like...

A Timely Word ........ for the bug is not a bug, it is an deeply embedded viral infection 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 11:01 GMT

Linux

"They've been caught mis-rating CDOs and so are blaming it on a bug; how convenient. " ... By OneArmJack Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 09:30 GMT

A net of asps/gang of crooks and thieves /nest of vipers in deed, indeed, OneArmJack. And their business model cannot be fixed for Future Fitness Purpose, as it needs to be replaced with an entirely different one, if they want to survive in their bubbles/ivory towers.

And until such times will they continue to haemorrhage billions, further reinforcing with a lack of intelligent foresight, their crooked nature, for the Capitalist System has been hacked to its Core Algorithm and will invariably be milked mercilessly to set up and finance its replacement, in the Control of Parties which are a great deal smarter than they are imagined by even the richest of bankers.

If the existing blinkered players were at all clever, they would be investing in the Change Agents, so that they can at least be their Proxies rather than being exposed to the anger of oppressed customers as the Change progresses and the serial deceits are exposed.

moody? 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 11:04 GMT

who the hell would trust a company called "moody" to do anything important? Sounds more like a rubbish night club.

PMT 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 12:06 GMT

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'They didn't annualise monthly volatility' No wonder there Moody!

Models 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 14:37 GMT

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If you think that implementation bugs are the beginning and end of problems in high finance, may your buy-to-let property turn into a crack den that smells of wee. All models are riddled with dubious assumptions.

I seriously misread that title 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 15:08 GMT

Coat

and thought Optimus Prime was going to fix the Moody computers (and all related moody users)

4 Chris 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 16:09 GMT

But I don't think anyone has yet gone to jail, which should certainly have happened. Not for the original bug. For the -c-o-v-e-r-u-p- "normalisation" that took place afterwards.

What really makes me mad is that this costs me every which way, and the perps walk away scot free.

Eron 2.0 

Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 22:29 GMT

Look some else changing the rules/cooking the books. I say if you get caught, you strap a flak jacket on you, put you on a plane, push you out over Iraq, and drop and m16 out the air plane. Parachute optional.

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