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It is always the Chinese :) 

Posted Wednesday 11th June 2008 23:31 GMT

I think it is China way of saying we need to firewall them in rather than have the expense borne by the Chinese government for the Great Firewall of China.

Which is oddly a bit like the irony of the Original Great Wall of China, which was really designed to keep the Chinese in, by the third build.

China is going to be a force to reckon with, is already, and they have limited the birth rate, which is on the face of it a good move. The jostling is about who is the world superpower, can the US better the Chinese in the cyber plane, well so far no.

McCarthyism is alive and well 

Posted Wednesday 11th June 2008 23:39 GMT

So it's not the big bad Ruskies this time, it's the sneaky little Chinamen.

Every time the playground bullies think they're not getting what they want, they look for another bad boy to blame.

"Hacked by Chinese!" 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 00:13 GMT

Black Helicopters

is this a Code Red security breech?

Act of War? 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 00:43 GMT

Pirate

Why wouldn't this class of hacking be considered an act of War? Isn't there evidence that this is supported and funded by the PLA?

Stored what? Where?! 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 01:21 GMT

Alert

"His office no longer stores the names of Chinese dissidents on computers"

I think that sums it up. Did he think all those crazy security standards the CIA and NSA have were for nothing? Was there no reason that information must be hand entered into secured non-networked systems? Me-thinks he should stick to trying to keep a notebook secure. That will be quite difficult enough for him.

@ Will Godfrey 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 01:42 GMT

Coat

Aren't you glad that you live outside of China and can make critical remarks without being blackbagged (yet)? Personally, I'm glad someone is being critical of China, especially since things like the Patriot Act in the US sure sound Chinese to me.

Mines the one with the sickle and anvil going up in flames on the back...

This is a pre-war behavior! 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 02:38 GMT

Pirate

This behavior is too far to a "civilized country" can do! Pre-war behavior!

@ Will Godfrey 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 03:08 GMT

Paris Hilton

Thank you for illustrating your lack of illumination on the subjects of history, fact and reason.

It's always a pleasure to hear people speak their minds ... it makes it that much easier for the rest of us to quickly identify the truly foolish.

<-- Paris because she has more of a clue than Willie.

A secure system-- 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 04:08 GMT

Linux

--has the penguin on it.

Politicians have a hard enough time using windows though, not to mention the series of tubes that connects them to the internets. They'd be hopeless on linux.

Didn't these people graduate from prominent universities?

Most favored what?! 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 04:46 GMT

Joke

Ohhhh yes, the Chinese mean to shower us with flowers and are our beeeeeeest friends. They want to love us and hold us and squeeze us and.....

D'you like dags, capitalist dags 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 05:53 GMT

Having the Chinese take over is probably the only cure for USAyness. Lets face it the yanks are falling further away from the European model and degenerating into barbarians faster than they can build rockets (Predator in CH11). Whatever fructose and poison induced craziness is going on in the US, stupidity now rules with an iron fist, even compared to the McCarthy days.

The Chinese hopefully will put some discipline on their new possessions and the southern states get to see the return of their beloved slavery albeit in a slightly different format.

It's either that or sub contract the Russians to nuke the US, but then there's the environmental problems.

Tough questions in the comment section -- answered! 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 08:12 GMT

Boffin

"Why wouldn't this class of hacking be considered an act of War?"

Because it isn't?

It's that simple.

Gates to Gitmo yet? 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 08:23 GMT

Gates Horns

What more evidence of treason is needed?

Pot calls kettle black 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 08:46 GMT

Black Helicopters

Congressmen that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Commentators indignant but miss the point

p*rn 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 08:53 GMT

Go

maybe if they werent all downloading p*rn from t'internet they wouldnt get malware on their machines

It seem... 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 08:56 GMT

that people are asuming that all politicians know nothing. It seems to me this guy is quight clued up about PCs for a non IT person. As for "well if he had used proper AV..." some people seem to be forgeting this is probably not some script kid or bot farmer, this looks like it might be the Chinese equivelent of the NSA or GCHQ, probably writing there own stuff never seen befor by AV vendors, so AV would probably be know use.

Life's a riot with Spy vs Spy 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 08:58 GMT

Black Helicopters

US Congressmen keeping info on "Chinese dissidents"?

Now *that* sounds like "pre-war behavior"! What's Chinese for "Playa Girón"?

thing about Chinese hack attacks... 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 09:15 GMT

Coat

...twenty minutes later, you want another one.

Coat, obviously.

Don't know what the fuss is all about... 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 09:40 GMT

I guess storing confidential data on unsecured computers is marginally more secure than printing it off on hard copy and leaving it on public transport for all and sundry. Either way, politicians and civil servants are their own worst security leaks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7449255.stm

COMINT of the Emerging Nations 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 10:26 GMT

Pirate

Hacking is just a novel way of gathering communications intelligence. The Chinese are probably pretty upset about the UK/USA spy planes, satellites, submarines and stationary equipment .

Now they breached the "gentlemen way of intelligence gathering" by hacking ? Like submarines are an "un-gentlemen" way of warfare ?

Face it, this is Internet Time. Adapt or perish.

Time for NSA/GCHQ/BSI to educate the other government entities and actively protect their information technology assets.

I am actually happy the Chinese do this kind of thing before actually shooting, because it forces the West to become alert and fix things. In my opinion they act pretty stupid in doing this during peacetime. If I were in charge, I would build huge exploit databases and use those only for very strategic purposes. Either the ChiCom leadership is stupid, or the heat of the Tibetan uprising is so strong that Beijinh feels the need to take emergency measures.

They took their time 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 10:53 GMT

Coat

in announcing it! 2006 and 2007 was some time ago now.

Lame congressmen 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 13:57 GMT

So it is my understanding that these computers were not up on anti-spyware software updates. That these congressmen went to known web sites with malware on them. And then they blame others for their failure to secure their computers. What fools!

Grow up and join the new world. You have to run anti-virus and anti-spyware software, update security patches on your computer, and do not go to sites with malware on them.

These congressmen are just trying to drum up anti-China fervor by supporting known anti-chinese groups. China has every right to view these groups the same way Americans view Osama Bin Laden and Al-queda.

@Steven Swenson 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 15:10 GMT

Paris Hilton

A secure system has any OS, but no network connection and no ability for a user to access it.

I really wonder if their machines were hacked or if they got a few pop-ups and redirects from doing "research" on some Asian websites.

Even Paris knows not to look for p0rn while on a government computer.

If you are going to the olympics 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 17:58 GMT

Forget about taking any electronic device - the whole place is going to be spiked with every hacking tool known to mankind. I am surprised that the media hasn't made more of this. Just take your trusty film cameral, and wait till you get home to send all those great shots out to friends.

Paranoid 

Posted Thursday 12th June 2008 20:09 GMT

Paris Hilton

Sometimes the world is really out to get you, even if you are not paranoid! Hard to tell the difference, but the results are nearly the same.

Paris loves noids!

Ah 

Posted Friday 13th June 2008 03:30 GMT

Alien

Ah , the fear of "IT" strikes again , the false spin doctors and local perpetrators weave their tales of fiction to cover their steps "Watergate Style" whilst the real enemy resides just down the road in Maryland !

Let me see if I have all the details right... 

Posted Friday 13th June 2008 04:01 GMT

Paris Hilton

Dear USA Congress-person and/or Federal Court Judge,

it is my understanding that:

(1) The dog ate your homework.

(2) The Chinese hacked your laptop.

(3) The Russians posted hard porn images to your web site.

(4) The Pirate Bay saved illegal MP3's to your hard drive.

All of this while you were somewhere else, doing something

important.

What's that? Number 1 happened to you in high school?

Well then. We'll simply cross-out number one and proceed

to number 2.

On a more serious note...

Truly, we are living in the age of incompetence.

- The Garret

Paris. Because she has an excuse for everything.

perception and double deception 

Posted Wednesday 18th June 2008 13:18 GMT

Coat

Another excuse under the new "act" to wage a cyber war against these

persistent little -communist boogers.

They have been hard at us for a while ,and still are , but the odd "friendly fire "

appearing to come from the enemy adds cred again to mass the troops

and DOS them ..

Lets watch our backs anyways ...70% of the traffic from CH is true anyways

so what does a little help from the inside do for a cause .?

I feel for the persons responsible for the admins of those laptops etc.

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