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Well.... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:00 GMT

Coat

They still allow Mike Huntiswet......

Still to try Ben Doone and Phil McAvity.

Oh... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:03 GMT

Unhappy

"Dick Gaywood"- poor sod.

You would have thought that the parents could have tried harder.

In other news... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:04 GMT

The Register reporters were found today lying in the streets with bleeding fingers having tried to desperately scrape the bottom of the barrel for XBox trolls until their fingers bled.

Really, "Automated name-filtering software catches person with potentially offensive word in their name/nickname". This hasn't been news for at least 10 years now.

Similarly, I'm sure if you make an account called Edwin Fuckface or Roger Twatcunt or something on most online services it'll be picked up. On the same note, if you make an account called Gareth SuckMyMassiveW4ng it probably wont be picked up. Thus is the nature of automated filtering.

Make up your mind MS! 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:10 GMT

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So first MS cannot wait to offend it's users: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/03/santa_filth_outrage/

But now they will go to ridiculous lengths to stop anything they deem inappropriate!

Think I will stick with my PS3 anyway, that way if Sony blocked my name (if it was remotely offensive to any companies) I would not have been paying for it - which I think would make the Live service a more customised service and would try to keep their customers happy!

Gay Search anyone? 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:15 GMT

http://www.greeneheaton.co.uk/pages/authors/author.asp?AuthorID=8

@AC 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:15 GMT

>You would have thought that the parents could have tried harder.

Yeah, Randolph Richard Gaywood perhaps?

Thinking internationally 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:20 GMT

This reminded me of the wonderfully named 'Randy Bender' (literally meaning horny homosexual for those outside the UK) who was heavily linked several years ago. El reg even did an article on it but sadly the link is no longer valid. Googling 'randy bender' nowadays seems to bring up a long list of namesakes.

I worked with a 'Randy Winkel' once, which is almost as similarly amusing.

Re: In other news... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:29 GMT

(Written by Reg staff.)

Thank you for the feedback, Allowicious Smythe-Jones St Penisface. We always appreciate it.

Oh, sorry, you meant to post anonymously, didn't you? Tsk, buttermodfingers!

GENIUS 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:33 GMT

Paris Hilton

Mike Huntiswet - I LOVE that - superb.

When I was at college, I was in a class with a girl from Eastern Europe called Annette Kurtin - That is a real name, but still her nickname was "beefy" . . . . .

Mine's the flasher Mac in the corner.

P.S. an obvious one, but Paris, cos we have all seen her beefy curtains !

Account was live 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:33 GMT

IT Angle

That error seems to imply that the gamertag was allowed, then was revoked at a later stage.

If so, this would be due to people taking offence and reporting him, sadly if someone gets enough complaints about their gamertag (there is an automatic complaints option for gamertag names) then they are automatically invalidated.

XBox staff should make more of an effort to have a human input on these things, afterall, XBox live is a subscription based service.

God help... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:35 GMT

..anyone from Scunthorpe.

@ sarah bee : Re: In other news... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:38 GMT

Heart

i belive the term for this sort of act is "owned" nice work sarah!

@ AC (In other news... ) 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:41 GMT

Coat

Blimey! Calm down, you're not bein forced to read this.

oh bugger, the boss is calling me, I'll finish this comment later.

Re In other news... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:48 GMT

Alert

>Really, "Automated name-filtering software catches person with potentially

>offensive word in their name/nickname". This hasn't been news for at least 10

>years now.

That may not be news, but this is. "Gay" is NOT an offensive word. Welcome to the 21st century, Microsoft may enter it soon, too.

Microsoft hate gays! 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:50 GMT

Flame

Clearly they must! What haters!! And why did this poor bloke get his real name banned?? They must like being nasty!!

:-)

Welcome to the internet 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:53 GMT

Not available to residents of Scunthorpe

Hey, I'm on The Reg again 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 09:56 GMT

Alert

Heya all.

Just to clarify a few points -- yes, my tag was allowed and then revoked, I've been using it without problems since Jan 2007. Yes, this decision is made by a human and not automated, as confirmed by the Microsoft rep on his blog: http://www.stepto.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=434

Yes, I was teased growing up. Yes, I got over it :oD

@Dave - Genius 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:00 GMT

Heart

Didn't Annette Kurtin run off with Wayne Kerr? :-)

Where does he live? 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:04 GMT

Happy

Scunthorpe?

Also note that I'm pretty sure that in Ameriglish "gay wood" would mean "arsebandit's hard-on", so their filter's probably objecting to the unfortunate juxtaposition (for Septic software) here rather than being a drooling, fascist homophobe.

Discrimination... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:22 GMT

Surely Microsoft classing the word 'gay' is offensive is against the law on the ground of discrimination. It's not an offensive term for homosexuality (especially in this case where it's in the blokes name) like queer or faggot but Microsoft seems to be saying it is. Would a username mentioning race or ethnicity be banned (e.g. Indian or black)? If not, surely this shouldn't be.

Also, do they filter the letters 'ass' from usernames which most people would agree is swearing (admittedly very mild swearing)?

Richard - gay? Would! 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:23 GMT

Good to see you're famous for a good reason now, mate. ;-)

I've similar experience with Hotmail 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:41 GMT

This article reminds me of an incident with MS Hotmail several years ago. I was trying to register an account with my real name. As my last name "Maila" begins with "Mail...", Hotmail decided it's an invalid choice for the last name. The error message I got was funny. "Invalid last name. Please change your last name". Well, as you might guess, I didn't change my last name but chose another email provider.

Sexist? 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:44 GMT

Flame

No support from the Reg readers for people with a first name of 'Gay'?

Apart from the female use so far I can only think of 'Gay Burns' sp? the Irish TV host.

The fairly childlike attitude towards folks with the word 'gay' somewhere in the name sort of reinforces M$'s stance on their filtering if all they can hear is sniggering at the back of the class

The Ass in Class 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:49 GMT

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@ Neil Docherty

When Sun introduced naughty word filtering on their Java forums they did, indeed, filter the word 'ass'.

You can imagine the fun that caused..........

The number of times 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:50 GMT

I've been banned for using the common name Wang in online communities...

My mate 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:51 GMT

had "yougay sodd" as his gamertag for ages and never heard anything, he's not online now though so I don't know if they expire or anything,

names 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:55 GMT

also, a girl at our college (a few years ago now) was called Jenny Taylor, many people took a lot longer to get it than i did,

Redundant yet amusing emphasis 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:55 GMT

"literally meaning horny homosexual for those outside the UK"

I'm genuinely flabbergasted (I'm having a faux Victoriana day) at the need for the word 'literally' in that explaination... :)

That's why Iron Maiden's singer never plays on Xbox Live 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 10:58 GMT

Poor Bruce.

@Welcome to the internet 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:04 GMT

For years if you wanted to signup with AOL and lived in Scunthorpe you had to be a bit more creative with your address as it wouldn't let you, got to the point where it made the front page of the local rag.

There's a Randy Bush works for one of the network operators in America, always makes me smile.

Hmmm Re. Discrimination... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:26 GMT

I wonder how Richard Blackwood gets on with his Xbox live account

@rob 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:26 GMT

Stop

Jenny Taylor - [snigger]

I've seen many a person on forums who hail from "S****horpe".

I cant work out... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:27 GMT

If this is rampant homophobia or the sort of mimsiness that made the Victorians refer to 'limbs' rather than 'legs',,,,,

And given the fact that my 11 yr old grandson uses 'gay' as a sort of general purpose adjective for people he considers rather feeble (like his older brother), I'm not sure which children these folks are trying to protect from such wicked words

Re: In other news 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:31 GMT

IT Angle

"Really, 'Automated name-filtering software catches person with potentially offensive word in their name/nickname'. This hasn't been news for at least 10 years now."

I disagree. The technique was surely discredited beyond redemption almost as soon as it was first deployed and anyone still using it must have spent the last decade or more in a coma. Why are they now heading up one of Microsoft's biggest developments?

IT angle: Knowing this much about their project management, can we trust *anything* else from Microsoft?

Gay 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:31 GMT

Happy

I know someone called Gay. She was introduced to my wife recently to which my wife thought she was being a bit forward:

"Hi I'm Gay.."

"I'm Stephanie, and I'm married thank you."

Made me smile for weeks!

@Iain Waddingham 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:37 GMT

Boffin

Was it this Wayne Kerr? Seems to run his own electronics business....

http://www.waynekerrtest.com/

I prefer the old MS 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:41 GMT

Paris Hilton

This is from the same company that slipped:

Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz

into fontview.exe

Paris, she's more swan than jackdaw but my sphinx doesn't discriminate!

Innuendo-based filtering? 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 11:45 GMT

Pirate

So does this mean that all names with even the feintest whiff of innuendo will be filtered from now?

What of the many 'Blackwoods', 'Hiscocks', 'Slowcums' 'Bellheads' and 'Longhorns' of this world (to name but a few)?

It'll only end in tears!

I've been GAY since the day I was born... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 12:21 GMT

Boffin

So has my Dad.. As was his Dad...

Facebook took dislike and wouldnt even let me register, asking me to email them to resolve the 'issue' with my name lol

I couldnt be bothered - Blessing in disguise perhaps..

What was wrong with... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 12:25 GMT

Glyndwr?

George Bush's nephew is called "Pierce", by the way.

Gay names 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 12:53 GMT

In Ireland, Gay used to be a normal abbreviation for Gabriel. Gay Byrne was a leading broadcaster for decades, while Gay Mitchell was a leading politician. However, younger Gabriels don't use this abbreviation, for some reason.

I am prejudiced against gays for one reason - that they destroyed the old meaning of a good and useful word, "gay". I wish they had created a new word, rather than killing a good old one. Today, many young folk are actually unaware that gay has any other meaning than homosexual.

@Steve Heal 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:15 GMT

Happy

> Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz

Are you saying they should have stuck to quick brown foxes?

@Michael 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:29 GMT

Actually AFAIK homosexuals didn't change the meaning; it was heterosexuals misunderstanding the then-alternative meaning of "gay" meaning "working as a prostitute". Hence the famous phrase "some of my best friends are gay" when originally used was meaning "some of my best friends are prostitutes". But it was used by a man talking about his male-prostitute friends.

And "gay" has since shifted meaning again to mean "naff". Many young folk actually would be surprised to hear that "that's so gay" would be interpreted by older people to be a homophobic insult, in roughly the same way that the word "spazz" when I was growing up in the 80s was used without meaning any insult to people with cerebral palsy.

Re. Hmmm Re. Discrimination... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:34 GMT

Joke

"I wonder how Richard Blackwood gets on with his Xbox live account"

I'd imagine he has a larger than average... err... gamerscore

Randy 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:36 GMT

Happy

A while back one UK radio station (can't remember which) took to rummaging through US phone directories for amusing names, calling them and trying to get them to say their name on air.

Still chuckle when I think of their best one - "Randy Fanny" :)

There can't be that many of them... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:36 GMT

Pirate

What's particularly scary about this, is that I went to school with a guy who had that exact name.

It couldn't be the same guy, could it?

@Erwin Blonk

The Bruce Dickinson comment also made me giggle...Can't believe I never saw that.

so is... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:38 GMT

Joke

a merkin really just someone who lives in the us?

@ Mickey O'Malley - Gay Names 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:40 GMT

IT Angle

When I was a kid in Ireland, a long time ago, I just couldn't understand how the broadcaster Gay Byrne was a man while radio 'Dear Frankie...' Frankie Byrne was a woman. Although to this day in Cork City Florance is a common name for men, as is Mary as a middle name.

Mickey on the other hand seems quite innocent to many - personally though I was creased up laughing at the myriad combinations while at the Paris Disney, especially a box labelled 'Jedi Mickey'. The mind boggles...

I'm assured that tour guides in the USA Disneys are often perplexed at the ripple of laughter from Irish tourists when introduced to a statue billed as The Biggest Mickey in the World.

As for young kids use of 'gay' - many of them are now unaware that it has any other meaning than 'rubbish'.

@Tom Cole 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 13:49 GMT

Happy

Bloody hell, did I used to play AD&D with you?

What about... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 14:03 GMT

Coat

... Gaylord? I guess if you were a fundie you'd change your name by deed poll.

Offensiveness or otherwise... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 14:43 GMT

"Surely Microsoft classing the word 'gay' is offensive is against the law on the ground of discrimination. It's not an offensive term for homosexuality..."

Have you been in the vicinity of any straight male console gamers under about 25 lately?

For them, "Gay" is the new universal derogatory. It reflects an unenlightened homophobia in a certain demographic. It's so prevalent they have "ghey" as a euphemism (or to avoid auto filters in chat). Anything that is not as good as it could be hoped to be is "gay".

spackle 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 15:22 GMT

"For them, "Gay" is the new universal derogatory. It reflects an unenlightened homophobia in a certain demographic."

More sanctimonious twaddle.

Gay means camp, effeminate or ineffectual and therefore is a perfectly good term for something which breaks before expected or fails to create the desired effect. Besides every gay bloke I know takes the piss out of things for being "straight" or "hettie" if they are ungainly, destructive or lacking in matching belts.

They're not all going to start crying because some "breeder" uses gay as a derogatory descriptor.

Having said that, sticking up for gays will win you points with their female friends so if it's working for you, good luck.

@Richard Gaywood 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 15:53 GMT

Small world, mate!

"Of all the threads on all the internet, I had to walk into yours..."

Jenny Taylor 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 16:13 GMT

Happy

lol we had a Jenny too she has a brother Jonny too but that doesn't quite have the same effect

See no evil 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 16:16 GMT

Gates Horns

Part of the rationale for banning "gay" as a handle involves pandering to the overly delicate sensibilities of the nutty fundamentalists in the US. They have the odd idea that if you blank out references to a disliked phenomenon (e.g. homosexuality, evolution, the existence of other religions, the existence of other forms of Christianity), you have in some way made that phenomenon cease to exist. (Cue the Monty Python parrot scene.) Or something -- it's hard to tell just what they think this extreme prudishness does.

Or maybe they're sure just hearing the word "gay" will inflame youths with uncontrollable desires to turn queer.

Or maybe they themselves can be inflamed in that way. Given the number of anti-gay Republican politicians who've been caught engaging in homo-hanky-panky (to coin a phrase) in public venues, this is far from being a joke.

Bill Gates with horns because...

@Spackle @Steve 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 17:46 GMT

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That was the most cynical comment I have read for a long time. Well done mate.

@ Rob Aley 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 18:03 GMT

Linux

"That may not be news, but this is. "Gay" is NOT an offensive word. Welcome to the 21st century, Microsoft may enter it soon, too."

Really? Then why is it part of so many insults? If it's not offensive, it can't offend. Hrm...

As for why it was done. Policy. That's all. Nothing special. No conspiracy. That's it.

Tux, because if you use it you're gay. (Which as proven by Rob is not offensive in any way).

How about Sanctimonious Twat ? 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 18:11 GMT

"We recieved a complaint on the Gamertag and determined that it did indeed contain sexual innuendo. Now granted, there could be an argument that the text is not pejorative to homosexuality and should therefore be allowed. But there is no context to explain that. Gamertags are visible to everyone and it would be hard for me to defend to a parent of a young child who saw it that the name did not contain content of a sexual nature."

my name is... 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 20:10 GMT

Happy

...Roger Twatcunt

oes problem cariad?

@ spackle et al 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 22:02 GMT

Stop

So "gay" shouldn't be offensive, nor doe it originally mean homosexual it's aslang term for homosexual but it actually means.....

gay (HAPPY)

adjective OLD-FASHIONED

1 happy:

We had a gay old time down at the dance hall.

2 If a place is gay, it is bright and attractive:

The streets were gay and full of people.

See also gaiety; gaily.

(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

sorry just thought I'd be a pedant

<pedant

noun [C] DISAPPROVING

a person who is too interested in formal rules and small unimportant details>

yes, by the Holy Beard 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 23:21 GMT

Alert

@Anonymous Coward: "so is... a merkin really just someone who lives in the us?

dick butkus 

Posted Thursday 22nd May 2008 23:27 GMT

would be beaned in 12 second

It's 2008... perfect example of the M$ mindset 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 02:18 GMT

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Seriously,

how utterly stupid, retarded a company should be with a policy like this?

This story speaks volumes about Microsoft's "cultural" roots.

Unique name? 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 05:14 GMT

When I was a comsci student at Cardiff uni, we had a lab assistant guy/PhD student called Richard Gaywood, seems like everyone knows one....

But seriously I'm quite surprised that we're so sure that it's the 'Gay' but, if M$ are so bloody worried about it, they could have banned that name for:

1) 'Richard' [Rhyming slang - Richard III = 'Turd'].

2) 'wood' [a boner, natch].

Maximum stupid points.

and you don't see.... 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 06:31 GMT

Unhappy

Ben Downe or Phil McCrackin on XBOX live these days.

Quite possibly she's well past such things but... 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 08:16 GMT

Flame

this all makes me wonder how an old flame of mine - Ann Kuntz - manages to get by at all?

Microsoft XBox Product Manager 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 09:39 GMT

Happy

The Microsoft XBox Product Manager is called... wait for it...

John RODMAN

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/03/microsofts_john.html

Marriages 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 11:05 GMT

http://www.thestirrer.co.uk/when-not-to-hyphenate-2005081.html

Funniest real name 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 11:28 GMT

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I saw a Dr Hornocker on some wildlife program years ago. Me and my brother laughed for about an hour straight.

http://www.uihome.uidaho.edu/default.aspx?pid=42866

Even though it was about 15 years ago, I am still laughing as I think about it. Class.

Real names 

Posted Friday 23rd May 2008 14:03 GMT

Happy

I went to school with a Richard Head. Swear to God.

A site full of them 

Posted Monday 26th May 2008 11:13 GMT

Drew Peacock and friends can be found listed at http://www2.psacake.com:81/silly.asp

What's so funny about Biggus Dickus? 

Posted Thursday 29th May 2008 19:52 GMT

Happy

...he has a wife you know? Incontinentia. Incontinentia Buttocks!

@nuciphaal 

Posted Sunday 1st June 2008 15:20 GMT

That's not another Richard Gaywood mate. That's me too. Same one.

The BFG 

Posted Sunday 1st June 2008 23:11 GMT

Big Fat Gay was my tag on HL2DM for ages

I changed it to Fudge Club

@Richard Gaywood 

Posted Thursday 5th June 2008 13:21 GMT

I actually had this page of comments bookmarked to see if you'd get back and confirm.

Nice to see you're still about. You were consistently the 'preferred' lab guy when it came to answering questions for our group.

Conversations in our sessions always went something like:

"Couldn't do question 6, the example didn't work"

"Oh yeah that one. That Richard guy showed me what to do."

"Richard guy...?"

"Richard Gaywood, guy with the beard?"

"Oh him! Yeah he was busy though. By the way, bit mean, innit? I think he's alright."

"What do you mean?"

"You called him GAYwood"

"That's his name."

"No, it's GRAYwood."

I had to force them to slyly read your ID badge to convince them of it. Oh how the yoof of today have corrupted the language...

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