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We want our name back, demand irate islanders

Published Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:15 GMT

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Title 

By Charlie
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:24 GMT

Not to be pedantic (cough) but surely it's Lesbian when referring to the islanders and lesbian when referring to gay women?

Mud wrestling is the only answer 

By Craig Errington
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:25 GMT
Paris Hilton

Lesbian on lesbian contest is the only way to settle this dispute

Paris because...well.

"Lesbians turn on lesbians in battle of Lesbos" 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:28 GMT
Coat

I've seen the film......

Mines the dirty Mac....

Hot 

By Chris Collins
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:29 GMT
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Plenty of hot Lesbian on Lesbian action, 20 deg C today in Greece:

http://weather.msn.com/local.aspx?wealocations=wc:GRXX0040

Eh? 

By Moz
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:31 GMT
Joke

How can you have a Gay and Lesbian Union? Doesn't that make the whole lot heterosexual?

I parsed that as... 

By Dave Ross
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:32 GMT
Paris Hilton

Lesbians "turn on" lesbians...

Paris for no particular reason, honest... ;)

Question 

By Chris
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:34 GMT

But what about sapphists who live on Lesobs? I don't think they've thought this through properly.

Lesbosian 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:37 GMT
Coat

a Lesbosian, probably better than being a Higgs Boson (less prodding)

Garrison.... 

By Mark
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:38 GMT
Coat

This is LESBOS!!!

Playmobil scene, please! 

By Anonymously Deflowered
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:41 GMT
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that is all.

Re: Garrison.... 

By Sarah Bee
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:41 GMT
staff

Ah, it's threads like this that make it all worthwhile.

Er, keep it cle... oh, never mind.

re: the registers proposed compromise 

By tranquil
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:52 GMT
Boffin

... and if enthusiasts of the ancient Greek poet Sappho want there word back?

expect similar action soon... 

By H
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:54 GMT
Paris Hilton

... from Dick van Dyke

Paris. You know/wish she's been there.

This thread... 

By Ash
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:58 GMT
Joke

... means nothing without pictures!

I'm looking at you, Ms Bee.

Does this mean.. 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 11:59 GMT

.. you can get male Lesbians?

Appelation Controllee? 

By hugo tyson
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:04 GMT
Paris Hilton

One can't help but be reminded of the fuss made by idiot Merkins when the Black Dyke Mills brass band went on tour... Should residents of Victoria (Oz) also complain that we think they're tall-hatted besuited gentlemen and crinoline-and-bonnet-wearing ladies from the Age of Steam when they refer to themselves?

Would they be satisfied... 

By David Wiernicki
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:11 GMT
Coat

...if the lesbians only had platonic relationships?

Erm 

By quin parker
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:13 GMT
IT Angle

Google is putting up some interesting ads on this story.

Transvestites.... 

By lokiprime
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:14 GMT
Flame

@ AC

Male Lesbians are called Transvestites :D

what happened to Lesvos? 

By Hollerith
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:19 GMT

That is an alternative name for the island, and I thought they were taking this up.

'Lesbian' for women has been used for well over 150 years, so it is a bit late. Barn door, horse, etc., folks. It's like objecting to the word 'gay' being 'hijacked' when it's had the homosexual meaning since the early 1800s, if not earlier.

I also take exception to the idea that having the word 'Lesbian' associated with gay women mans that all residents of the island are suffering from psychological 'rape'. It is only if you think lesbianism is an evil, deranged, poisoned, warped way of life. But surely in the Euro zone, we don't feel that being called 'gay' when we're not is something so terrible that we will be rendered insane.

And fellow El Reg posters -- wouldn't it be wise to assuem that lesbians are amongst you? Would you say some of these posted words to the face of a lesbian colleague?

So very... 

By Big Al
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:21 GMT
Heart

... tongue in cheek, this story.

Hopefully.

The heart because, well, it just had to be.

It's 

By Gerhardt
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:23 GMT
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Lesbians, but only in Greece.

Not trying to be fanny, but we should stiffly resist any attempts to mud wrestle this thread away from good clean, shaven, fun -- and stop being punning linguists.

brilliant 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:24 GMT
Coat

"...continue to use lesbian with gay abandon..."

Chuckle.

An old cowboy went to a bar and ordered a drink.

As he sat sipping his whiskey, a young lady sat down next to him.

After she ordered her drink, she turned to the cowboy and asked him, "Are you a real cowboy?" He replied, "Well, I have spent my whole life on the ranch, herding cows, breaking horses, mending fences. Yep, I guess I am."

After a short while, he asked her what she was.

She replied, "I am a lesbian. I spend my whole day thinking about women. As soon as I get up in the morning I think of women, when I eat, shower, watch TV, everything seems to make me think of women."

A short while later she left and the cowboy ordered another drink.

A couple sat down next to him and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"

He replied, "I always thought I was, but I just found out that I'm a lesbian."

*snigger* 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:25 GMT
Pirate

The potential for jokes about this story is huge. One thing I would say, the inhabitants of Lesbos had better be in bloody good shape - the lesbians I know brook no stupidity and are bloody good in a fight (a few are very competent at martial arts and at least one is good with a sword). I sure wouldn't argue with them!

Please do a playmobil on this story!!!

Skull and crossbones because it's very dangerous to incur the wrath of lesbians.

male lesbian 

By Tanya Cumpston
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:29 GMT

"A male lesbian is a physiologically heteosexual male who wishes he'd been born a girl. He feels alienated by the social standards of gender roles. He may be a crossdresser or consider himself transgendered, but he is probably not transsexual. His ideal would be to be able to be his feminine self in a relationship with a biological female. If he is open about this, he may be ridiculed by both the gay and straight communities."

See http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=male+lesbian

Noooooo! 

By Eponymous Howard
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 12:41 GMT
Flame

You mean Trivial Pursuit has been lying to me all these years? It says they are called Lesbosians.

Can't we all just get along... 

By Paul
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 13:04 GMT

Surely the most satisfactory result would be for the island to issue it's own ".les" domain...which would then make them a few bob through all the registrations ?

@quin parker 

By Anonymously Deflowered
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 13:06 GMT
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"Big Wet Fannys

Thinking of buying? Compare 100s of retailers' prices at Shopping.com"

Good old yellow.... erm, I mean Good old google ads.

I need 

By Eden
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 13:33 GMT

Citizenship so I can delcare myself officially a Non Dom Lesbian (Male).

Silliness 

By Kanhef
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 14:06 GMT
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Just change the official Anglicization to 'Lesvos'. End of problem. Or call it 'Midilli', but the Greeks wouldn't be too happy.

Sappho, fragment 28 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 14:16 GMT

"

Hadst thou felt desire for things good or noble, and had not thy tongue framed some evil speech, shame had not filled thine eyes, but thou hadst spoken honestly about it.

"

Seriously, this peurility of comment is embarrassing to me (straight male). Watch your videos and I'll watch mine but don't discuss, as some kind of entertaining freaks, women who just happen to like women.

Sappho-quoting AC 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 14:34 GMT
Heart

Don't worry pet, as a real-life lesbian (the lady-loving kind, not the Greek kind) it's taken in good humour. We're not scary man-hating militants y'know! I love blokes, I just don't wanna shag them.

Anyway, as the island is really called Lesvos, this is surely only an issue for the Lesvians in the UK? I'm very puzzled. Publicity grab methinks. Greeks never refer to their islands by the Anglicised name. I mean, no Kerkyran would say they were from 'Corfu'.

Gay Girly Geekette, who knows that Aphrodite could kick Sappho's arse.

Male lesbians... 

By David
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 14:51 GMT

...certainly exist. I have met a gay man who came from Lesbos.

What next? 

By Anonymous John
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 15:07 GMT

Will the Canary Islands object to a certain yellow bird being named after them?

@moz 

By Paul Charters
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 15:11 GMT
Unhappy

Well...no...it makes it another organisation that discriminates against straight people...

Cunning Stunts 

By alyn
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 15:30 GMT

What are the residents of Phuket called?

erm history 

By jeremy
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 15:32 GMT
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Didn't lesbians get their name from the women only religion based on this island many many years ago.

Just like the word vandal, lesbian comes from a quite appropriate historical source relating to a people with whom it was first associated.

This greek chap is a muppet who doesn't understand how language works.

Women 

By Jamie
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 15:55 GMT
Paris Hilton

Almost makes as much sense as the Women Rights groups in Canada wanting the name of a small viallage in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador changed to something other than Dildo as it is demeaning and degrading to women, who cares if it has had this name for over 100 years.

Instead put on a bikini and some baby oil and wrestle.

do I need a reason for the avatar with this type of article.

PS. Where is the IT angle (had to be stated)

It should be easy.. 

By Blubster
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 15:59 GMT
Coat

to tell lesbians from Lesbos islanders - the islanders don't wear donkey jackets.

Mine's the one with the furry muff

Re: male lesbian (Tanya Cumpston) 

By Pierre
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 16:52 GMT

""A male lesbian is a physiologically heteosexual male who wishes he'd been born a girl. He feels alienated by the social standards of gender roles. He may be a crossdresser or consider himself transgendered, but he is probably not transsexual. His ideal would be to be able to be his feminine self in a relationship with a biological female. If he is open about this, he may be ridiculed by both the gay and straight communities.""

So, just a new name for Emo kids then?

Uh... they're greek? 

By Stephen Hurd
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 16:53 GMT
Stop

So the island is not "Lesbos" nor "Lesvos" but Λέσβος

What's the problem again?

For the love of god 

By James O'Brien
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 17:25 GMT
Joke

I have known many "lesbians" in my time and although alot of the practice good hygiene, most of the tree hugging hippie "lesbians" didnt know how to use a razor. Please tell me that these ones dont braid their underarm hair.

(How do you hide money from a Hippie? Put it under the soap)

/mines the rubber one, no not the used one.

vandals and lesbians 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 17:57 GMT
Heart

Yes lesbians did get their name after the particular women only based religion on this island - to be 'like a lesbian' is very old and as such has its origin from the association with the ruling female population at the island during the antique period. It does seem odd that they would be 'embarrased' by something which has its origin in their own history. It is not even a negative association. Vandals on the other hand have got their name 'vandalized' by the historically constructed defamation by the Romans. Vandals: originally a tribe living somewhere on the northen coast of what is today Polen. By the early vikings they were named something like 'wendes' which is related to the english word 'friends'. The vikings called this tribe for 'friends' presumably because it was one of the (few?) non nordic tribes with which they dealt with as friends. During the folk time of tribe movements in europe (after the birth of christ somewhere between year 0 up to approx year 400) the tribe formerly known by the Vikings as 'friends' moved south through europe down through spain and to north africa. After initially being abused and treated disrespectfully by Rome they mobilized and eventually succesfully sacked Rome. By being succesful in their seizure of Rome and inflicting noticable destruction on the city Rome had been 'vandalized'. So while the word 'vandal' originates from the word 'friend' it is no more associated with this originally positive meaning.

Oh, my sweet potatoes!!!! 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 18:16 GMT
Paris Hilton

They should make the female inhabitants of the island (fit ones of course) fight the fit lady-loving ladies for the name. This should happen once a year and involve very brief swimwear and lots of oil.....

This is the best news story ever!!!!

Paris - Because nothing else seems right.

Offesive language... 

By Cameron Colley
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 18:19 GMT

This would all be "solved" if people used language correctly.

Alas, the ingorant are destined to take over.

@vandals and lesbians 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 19:14 GMT

You meant 'fwendes'?

Indeed, the one with the picture of Elmer Fu... Righto, Never Darken Your Doorway etc. Yes, I heard you first time thanks

Look on the bright side 

By Mycho
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 19:48 GMT

At least Boris Johnson hasn't commented on it yet.

Did he ever actually apologise to all those places?

I vote for a Playmobil reconstruction 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 19:52 GMT
Boffin

sad boffin, 'cause that's me!

I can't blame them... 

By Curtis
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 20:24 GMT
Coat

I wouldn't sleep with a guy either

IGMC

That must be 

By Juliette Martens
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 21:51 GMT
Coat

a blow to the lesbians!!

Er - ah, uhm, maybe not.

Happy queensday everybody - at least we DID get a little logo on google.nl

@ Title 

By oldfartuk
Posted Wednesday 30th April 2008 22:23 GMT
Paris Hilton

Ok, so if there successful, will there next be an action by Farmers and Landscapers to stop them using the word 'Dyke' ?

Sappho and Aphrodite 

By Peter Howardson
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 03:32 GMT

I thought that lesbians got their name from the island being associated with the poet Sappho, who lived there and who was particularly noted for her poetry about other women. Anglicised references to her, obviously much later, referred to her as Sappho of Lesbos, giving English the words 'sapphic' and 'lesbian' through association with her.

Aphrodite would have had a big edge over her in a fight, being divine. Not exactly a fair fight. Although maybe Sappho could have taken inspiration from Sc...I'm going to have to look up the spelling..Scheherazade and repeatedly put Aphrodite off by composing poetry about her but not finishing it.

I could have brought the tone of this post down by ending it with the question "or did you typo when you wrote 'kick'?", but I won't.

Oh dear :)

@oldfartuk 

By Dave
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 03:33 GMT

It won't be farmers, it'll be the Dutch. They've been using dykes for a long time. Think of the boy who stuck a finger in one...

re: oldfartuk 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 04:15 GMT

And after that the lumberjacks will want their faggots back.

re: re: oldfartuk 

By MarmiteToast
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 08:56 GMT
IT Angle

And us brits will want to be able to "bum a fag" again seeing as they're so expensive these days.

So 

By Luther Blissett
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 09:06 GMT

No-one thinks of the Jordanians. Very odd.

Webcam... 

By Robert Hill
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 09:38 GMT
Paris Hilton

All I want to know is - who has the URL for the Eressos resort live webcam!?!?!

I'll be on Google the rest of the day, methinks...

Paris, just because she has as little to do with IT as this story.

Surely... 

By Dave Edmondston
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 11:16 GMT
Alert

Surely the residents of the island are, erm, 'Greek'?

This is like people on the island of Arran calling themselves Aryan; we all know what that lead to...

Arsebandit 

By James
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 11:16 GMT

I bet the inhabitants of the island of Arsebandit are watching the outcome of the case carefully.

Re: Lesbian Transvestites 

By TrishaD
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 11:58 GMT
Happy

Actually.....

One of the few advantages of being transgendered is that you can happily ignore all labels such as 'straight' or 'gay' and have sex with whoever you like..

What about the Samaritans, Philistines, & Vandals 

By BKB
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 12:43 GMT
Happy

What about the Samaritans, Philistines, Vandals, Huns, Goths, and Spartans?

Which would you prefer to put up with, spartan accomodation vandalised by philistine goths, or some lesbians?

I think the Lesbians have got their priorities mixed up.

Re: male lesbian 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Thursday 1st May 2008 14:10 GMT
Boffin

That depends on how exactly you define "male". It's not exactly easy to come up with a good, robust definition of "male" even in the strictly biological sense. Transsexuals make things even more confusing, though at least they know whether they're male or not.

Still, apparently transsexual lesbians do exist. (There was even a fairly entertaining episode of Dark Angel based around this.) For male lesbians, though, you might be better off looking in Second Life - apparently some of the in-world lesbians are males in real life and it's caused huge amounts of e-drama in the past. (Probably still does - I don't really follow Second Life-related news anymore, and I'm not sure it'd really count as news either.)

Lesbian and Proud 

By Jeff Paffett
Posted Friday 2nd May 2008 12:08 GMT
Happy

As a British resident on Lesvos, I'm trying to get my male Greek friends to wear "Lesbian and Proud" badges. Not much success so far...

Just to clarify... 

By mez
Posted Tuesday 6th May 2008 07:07 GMT
Alert

To all confused would-be linguists, yes, the Greek name for the island is Lesvos and the female residents are called Lesvies. But gay females are also called "lesvies" in greek, not lesbians, so, there's your problem.

Which is not a problem at all, because the common name for the island is Mitilini and the residents are called Mitilinii (yes, I know, it looks better in greek).

Don't believe me? Try and call a random girl from Mitilini "lesvia" and see what happens :)

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