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Comments on: Tory tackles Whitehall on Wiki-updating spooks

Adonis - Too Far Gone 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 13:41 GMT

Paris Hilton

"The minister corrected a page about himself on Wikipedia" - that would be reverted under the NO ORIGINAL RESEARCH rule, unless he provided sources and so forth.

Whitehall Wikipedians 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 13:42 GMT

A nice bit of PR for Jimbo from Stephen O’Brien, MP

Spooks and sundry government droids get as bored as the rest of us, I'm sure and it doesn't matter to me whether it's Wikipedia or YouPorn they waste my money on.

If only Mr O’Brien would expend as much effort on investigating Phorm...

Whitehall has no clue what its workers are getting up to on their taxpayer-funded PCs 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 14:00 GMT

Paris Hilton

harrumph, we know a song about that don't we boys and girls...

It's got lines like... "freecell", "donkey pr0n" and "leaving them in taxis"

I'm running out of excuses to use the Paris Icon...

Not from the rank and file in MOD 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 14:27 GMT

Black Helicopters

The gateway system that sits between the MOD internal networks and the InterToobs blocks access to Wikipedia editing. To be sure, I just tried it, hence the anonymous post. Hold on, there's someone at the door...

lunchtime 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 14:28 GMT

Stop

What's wrong with civil servants surfing in their lunch hour if they like, and does it matter to us what they do so long as it's legal and within their departments guidelines?

Hasn't this minister got any work to do himself that he's so busy trying to cause trouble for others?

Is there a point to this MP's questioning? 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 14:38 GMT

"Shouldn't be doing this on civil-service time".

Well, no of course they shouldn't, just like they shouldn't be reading their personal email, looking at eBay, the BBC News website, calling friends, arranging a mortgage, reading the latest issue fo Cosmo, etc, etc.

All things EVERYONE does at work at some point (go on, admit it you have too!), it's human nature.

Posted from a work PC on a quiet afternoon.

Wikiscanner 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 15:25 GMT

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Surely running up the on your list of IP addresses wikiscanner can't be seen as "disproportionate"? Not unless you are (a) unware of anything in the IT world or (b) you've got something to hide. Or both, though I'm prone to think its just the former.

Top gov.uk contributions to Wikipedia 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 16:35 GMT

Black Helicopters

... Iraq possessed WMD up to the second Gulf war...

... Dr. David Kelly wasnt murdered...

... Tony Blair is not a sociopath who lied Britain into a criminal war...

... MI6 being run by oil companies is just a conspiracy theory...

... The ID Register and ID cards are to protect your rights as subhuman slaves to the master race of MPs and civil servants...

... The disks werent lost or stolen, they are merely temporarily misplaced...

> O’Brien has information 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 21:45 GMT

Black Helicopters

Easy to figure out: http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=195.217.192.0-15

Shock horror, HMGCC also reads ElReg. Three visits from HMGCC I had to my website have ElReg articles as referers.

Now are these visits from staff during their lunch breaks? (HMGCC is not the only gov/intelligence/army domain browsing the web - this is just for my site: http://gizmonaut.net/gov_visitors.html)

br -d

How much more bullshit is this government going to dish out? 

Posted Monday 31st March 2008 22:20 GMT

Flame

As stated in the article;

<quote>The Ministry of Justice says: "The Ministry of Justice's IT Systems are unable to provide a record of Wikipedia entries which have been created and amended by special advisers, Ministers and communications officials since August 2005."</quote>

To my knowledge, without configuration (and I don't mean my knowledge), the systems that allow access to the Internet, by default, register IP addresses and where they're going; it's part and parcel of IP connectivity; there is always a way.

So if we can assume (in all probability) that outward bound IP addresses can be linked to their destinations, then it is only a very small step thereafter that can link the connection from a government IP address to the Wikipedia address.

However the statement that <paraphrase>we are unable to provide access records since 2005</paraphrase> is correct, because the default "logs" would have been overwritten over that time.

But intimating it is not possible is a down right lie and just shows how far this government is willing to go to misrepresent itself in order to push through its dictatorial regime.

To all sane people this is just another red flag as to the contempt Labour holds us in.

The bottom line is; either they have a policy to bullshit the public at large when it comes to statements on their IT capabilities (and other things notwithstanding) or they are totally pig ignorant. (Sorry pigs of the porcine nature but it is a recognised turn of phrase and probably needs to be updated to something like "totally labour ignorant.")

In this digital age, which we are now in, all of us punters should now be vying for a change to those who currently rule us and are apparently deaf to 21st century common sense.

It's in the drop-down box... 

Posted Tuesday 1st April 2008 03:42 GMT

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=194.60.0.0-194.60.63.255&ip2=&ip3=&ip4=

Wiki - Whacky - Who.... 

Posted Tuesday 1st April 2008 04:27 GMT

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...cares?

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