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Xeon topping

Published Sunday 23rd March 2008 07:55 GMT

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Lest we forget... 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Sunday 23rd March 2008 13:20 GMT
Boffin

Intel has dabbled successfully with HPC in the distant past. Aided by generous DARPA funding, Intel created the Paragon series of supercomputers, culminating in the first several teraflop systems ever constructed. The ASCI Option Red Supercomputer, delivered to Sandia National Laboratories circa 1996, was (if memory serves) a 1.8 Tflop system. It was one of the first, if not the first, to achieve this level of peak performance. That being said... Intel/SSD (Supercomputer Systems Division) was decommissioned shortly after ASCI Red's delivery, because Intel's upper management saw no future/profit in the technology. This perception was not due to short-sightedness or disinterest on the part of upper management. Our SSD corporate culture was so unique, and so far removed from the culture prevalent throughout the rest of Intel, that we were simply unable to convey our vision for the future. There weren't enough common points of reference. We didn't speak the same dialect. My point? I will be very impressed if Intel is able to "run with the big dogs" before spending at least a decade re-acquiring the appropriate personnel and re-evolving an appropriate micro-culture. It is good that Intel has learned tenacity from Itanium. They'll be needing to apply some of these "learnings" to HPC.

- The Garret

I read this as petscaling at first, 

By Anonymous John
Posted Sunday 23rd March 2008 13:36 GMT

and wondered why El Reg was running a story about animal dentistry

Liar, liar, pants on fire! 

By Brian Miller
Posted Sunday 23rd March 2008 19:39 GMT

"Gelsiinger said that the work needed to write software for new architectures is often measured 'in many years - sometimes decades.'"

Gelsinger, just because you have an entrenched feudal system of morons doesn't mean that the rest of the world is going to hang around for you to figure out your "strategy." Sorry, but IBM is a little bit ahead of you. Take a look at #441 on the November list, the SR11000-K2 by Hitachi. This uses 50 PowerPC chips. Only 50. How many of your Xeon chips does it take to get up to speed on the current list? Over 1,000. Bit of a difference, eh?

Then take a look at Nvidia. Gee whiz, they have put their chipset into the Tesla system and put out the Cuda SDK. People are using it right now. Nobody is waiting for Intel to save the day. Years or decades for software engineers to catch up? No, I don't think so because the hardware and the tools are already out there.

Intel's problem is that Intel isn't out there.

Too bad, Gelsinger.

Reality 

By Acme Fixer
Posted Monday 24th March 2008 14:44 GMT
IT Angle

Leave it to the big dogs of supercomputing to start a pi$$ing contest. HPC is so far removed from reality it's like seeing a top fuel dragster on a city street.

@Anonymous John 

By Les Matthew
Posted Monday 24th March 2008 17:10 GMT
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I think Ashlee has a bad case of that quintessentially British affliction.

"The bad pun"

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/21/clearspeed_three/

I rest my case. ;)

Re: @Anonymous John 

By Ashlee Vance
Posted Monday 24th March 2008 17:47 GMT
staff

Bad puns? I'm not familiar with these concepts.

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