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Stealthy Spy Blimp 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 08:38 GMT

The steering control is neat, operating without rudder or elevators, however for spying or "covert operations" as we spooks like to call it, we would prefer something a little less obvious especially if it is going to hover over enemy installations for long periods of time. Does the price include as standard a "cloaking device" to render the dirigible invisible?

The north wind shall blow ... 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 08:38 GMT

Thumb Down

This seems to suffers from precisely the same problem as all those bright "let's deliver data from a hovering blimp" ideas. At 15,000 feet, 60kt is a pretty small wind. Twice that isn't uncommon. So while these things might be able to hang around for a couple of days in settled fine weather, they are going to end up in Albuquerque (data) or Iran (spying) every time the wind starts blowing.

That sub-title is genius. 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 08:42 GMT

Happy

All hail Igglepiggle.

(My excuse: a two-year-old son. Honest)

Thanks 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 09:03 GMT

Happy

*Those who lack small kids or an early-evening cannabis habit - and hence don't watch In The Night Garden - may not be familiar with the Pinky-Ponk."

Not having any small kids available some of us never knew about the prog. From the same folks that brought us Pob - now there was a character who appeared to have been at the bong before transmission.

Extra Rizlas now on shopping list.

A big smiley E

All we need now is a robotic Iggle Piggle 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 09:05 GMT

Coat

< those of you without kids can ignore this>

is it available... 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 09:14 GMT

Black Helicopters

...in black?

Anti Aircraft Weapon? 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 09:22 GMT

Pirate

Ok so now any kid with a BB gun will possess a "counter surveillance, anti aircraft weapon"

Pinky Ponk 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 09:35 GMT

IT Angle

My daughter renamed it the 'Stinky Stonk' simply because of the noises it makes.

And what's with Macca Pakka and his OCD???

At least it would be clean 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 09:55 GMT

Dead Vulture

What with Makka Pakka's OCD for washing things.

/dead bird cozs the Tittifers get right in mine.

Beautiful @David S 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 10:04 GMT

Linux

Exactly the same thing that I thought of with the title. Had to read the story as the title drew me in.

On to a more serious note does anyone actually think this is going to be used for spying on enemies of the state, such as forgein territories, or for spying on the enemies of the gov't, such as citizens of London.

RE:Stealthy Spy Blimp 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 10:40 GMT

No problem. Just paint it to look like a cloud. Then, when the terror-cell is taking a break, Al looks up and...

"Hey Mo! That cloud looks like a cigar with tail fins!"

"Nah. It's a giant penis with tail fins."

"How would you know what a giant..." etc. with a general round of all-boys-together laughter from this zany crew.

And while this is going on the little robo-cameras are going click-click-clickety-click and getting great smiley-face portraits - all except for Mo, of course, who's looking puzzled and saying:

"Hey! Waddaya mean..?"

Problem solved.

Thats laughable...I actually laughed. 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 11:02 GMT

Coat

They used balloons to spy in WW1!

Oh yeah and you won't get many points for hitting a target that big.

Mines the one with sheepskin collar...tally ho!

Oh the humanity! 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 11:23 GMT

Is curiously absent.

A kid with a BB gun... 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 11:30 GMT

Stop

...that has an effective VERTICAL range of 15,000 feet ? That's close on 3 miles! Pray tell, where can I buy one of those? ;)

15,000 feet is too low. 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 11:59 GMT

Pirate

If it's 15,000 feet above sea level then it's well within range of AAA in most mountanous terrain like Afghanistan. The ancient Russian S-60 57mm AAA was used with great effect against fast jets in Vietnam in the 1000-5000 feet arena, often scored hits as high as 8,000 feet, and there are plenty of them in Afghanistan left by the Russians. A 60-knot blimp would be regarded as target practice! Then there are the large number of Blowpipe, SA-7/SA-14 and Stinger SAMs which should be quite capable of hitting the 15,000 feet ceiling when fired from a 12,000 foot mountaintop, and of which are easier to hide than the S-60. All three have been used in Afghanistan. Even anti-tank missiles like the Pakistani Baktar-Shikan would be effective. It simply becomes a matter of how many and how big holes do you need to punch through it to make it crash.

Whilst such blimps might be of value in very low intensity conflicts such as policing over downtown Bahgdad, to survive over more hostile territory the platform needs to be small, fast and discrete, or 30,000+ feet up and able to hold position in the jetstream, let alone ordinary weather. The loss of the mentioned USS Macon shows how limited airships really are.

Both the Akron and the Macon 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 12:12 GMT

crashed in storms iirc. No apparent need for bb guns, or missiles.

I want one. 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 12:51 GMT

Pirate

I'll hang a rope off it and have the controller strapped to my arm. Make quick getaways on my hidden aircraft, just jump on the rope, secure myself and activate a preprogrammed maneuvre to a GPS location.

Batman would be proud.

re:i want one 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 13:19 GMT

Coat

@Tim

If you could get a woden floor gondola and attach a rope ladder to it, you could grow a thin pointy moustache, wear a floppy hat and jump and summersault everywhere to a techno beat!. Tho youd have to use peddle power coz its green.

/i to blame my 2 year old son, but am distictly unhappy about the lack of kids tv jokes in this thread am i the only one with fri-monday off? thursday is the new friday this week.

/coat the one with dummy in one pocket, a fruit shoot in the other and various snot/drool/mud/food/other stains on it.

that's CRAP! 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 13:40 GMT

pff!

I know what it is!!!! 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 14:49 GMT

Thumb Up

It is not pinky ponk or anything like that.

It is actually an American (Texas) sized pinata full of candy that we cannot eat when broken as it may contain sugar, or artificial colours. This would enturn upset Jamie Oliver and the PC brigade who would take all candy as it will make the children fat, and not the lack of school playgrounds.

Please think of the childrren.

@Matt 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 17:04 GMT

Black Helicopters

Congratulations! Your extensive knowledge of anti-aircraft weaponry has won you an all expenses paid Cuban holiday trip. The award committee should be arriving by helicopter just about.............. now!

Money maker 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 17:16 GMT

Black Helicopters

Take this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/7397/

Add a roll of gaffer tape, and a wireless camera.

Call it the Freedom Ultra surveillance blimp.

Sell the whole works to the US govt. for a shed load of cash. :)

A crusing speed of 60kts 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 17:45 GMT

Coat

and about 150kts all over the sky when it gets punctured by a SAM.

Something nasty at the bottom 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 17:49 GMT

Happy

In The Night Garden had escaped my notice - thanks for the tip-off. Truly terrifying, that star-shaped HaHoo has a nasty dose of orchitis...

(http://www.inthenightgarden.co.uk/en/visit-haahoos.asp)

Prior Art? 

Posted Thursday 20th March 2008 19:08 GMT

I seem to remember a William Gibson character who used something like that to shoot her indie film. Irritated the hell out of the main character.

Too lazy to go through my stash of his books.

"Those who lack small kids or an early-evening cannabis habit" 

Posted Monday 24th March 2008 22:51 GMT

Excellent line.

I have the small kids, so I'm aware of The Night Garden.

My surmise, from as little observation as possible without actually moving into my own flat or destroying the television, is that the programme creators have an early-evening cannabis habit.

And an early-morning one.

And mid-morning, lunchtime, mid-afternoon and late-evening ones and frequent all-night sessions.

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