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EMEA? 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 16:31 GMT

EMEA? Is that the East Midlands and East Anglia?

@AJ Stiles... 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 16:54 GMT

...PLEASE tell me you are joking?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Answer: EMEA? 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 16:55 GMT

Europe, Middle East and Africa

meh 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 17:00 GMT

Linux

Too bad SUSE sucks...

EMEA? 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 17:04 GMT

Coat

Is Google broken?

@ wiscados 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 17:41 GMT

Linux

SuSE isn't bad, per se. After all, it's really just a crude attempt to weld RPM onto Slackware (or was it SoftLandings?)

But SuSE *users* are distro-snobs of the worst kind -- they are convinced that their distribution is so much better than everyone else's.

Too bad 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 18:55 GMT

Boffin

Poor Indians, SuSE sucks!

Guess this is how Novell is going to find Novell experienced people to work in their call centres.

@wiscados 

Posted Tuesday 18th March 2008 19:39 GMT

Coat

"Too bad SUSE sucks..."

Sucks what?

A. Almost everything 

Posted Wednesday 19th March 2008 02:46 GMT

Gates Horns

Q. Sucks what?

I'm a Debian bigot, verily, but SuSe really does blow the big one - I've discovered this after having been forced to use it in a Novell shop here (5 servers deployed so far, 60 to go).

It's horrible in all the ways that Redhat and Solaris and AIX were wantonly horrible - it's designed badly, with minimal care, and targetted at people who expect OS maintenance to be complex and difficult. I guess it makes good marketing sense - people with low expectations are easily separated from their money.

Installing applications typically requires a separate activity to actually start them, and then a lengthy read through of non-SuSe-specific README files in the (if they remembered to provide it) /usr/share/doc/packages directory ... where you attempt to translate the compilation instructions into a 'this is how you should configure it on SuSe' sequence. Monumental waste of everyone's time and money.

Why does SUSE Suck? 

Posted Wednesday 19th March 2008 03:23 GMT

Really come on. I've used OpenSUSE as my OS of choice for a few years now. Though I have had some holidays with RedHat and Ubuntu. Where SUSE falls down is that it has Too Much Stuff included by default. Where it wins is hardware support. I ended up with SUSE after multiple failed attempts at installing Ubuntu onto my Lab Boxen. I was trying to escape Mandrake/Mandriva for some reason I can't actually remember now.

I have also been responsible for rolling Ubuntu onto peoples machines, and some copies od Redhat on servers. It's no better or worse than any other distro, but at least it's users don't wave it in front of everyone's face telling them that it's The Ultimate OS a la Ubuntu & OSX users.

*shrug* I'll no doubt get flamed, but it'll be by fanboys, who's opinions are by deafault worthless.

Pinko progress 

Posted Wednesday 19th March 2008 04:17 GMT

Boffin

@ jedd

actually, to be fair to RedHat, they've come a long way in package and process management. there are service scripts and chkconfig for many standard processes, and yum is now the default package manager. it's all quite manageable (for the most part), actually. much like Debian is, eh?

trash not what ye find unfamiliar. there's something about Debian, that Ubuntu has become so popular, mostly at Debian expense. all UNIX/Linux versions have their weaknesses. derivative versions and forks are the result (just ask the DragonflyBSD project).

that being said, SuSE is still crap by comparison, even if they get indemnified access to all the proprietary stuff from their "partner" in Redmond (got to hand it to Ballmer, he'd look right at home in a pimp suit - makes sense, he's from Detroit).

@Rick Leeming 

Posted Wednesday 19th March 2008 09:44 GMT

I'm with you. Out of all the distros I've played with, I keep sticking with SuSe. It's the only one that's installed first time of asking on everything I've thrown it at and I've only had one mare over a driver (which was partially my fault for not being more thorough researching it).

From reading round here, I guess I must be the only one who finds the Ubuntu installer more hardware-intolerant than MacOS........

Pirated Windows... 

Posted Wednesday 19th March 2008 10:08 GMT

will be installed on the computers the minute you buy them. My friend bought an Acer notebook with Linux, and the dealer installed Windows from the OEM disks on it without any hassle. I can't imagine a lot of people who would want their computer without Windows and MS Office (that'll be pirated too, most of the time)

I'm using opensuse right now. 

Posted Wednesday 19th March 2008 10:36 GMT

Linux

One reason I like it so much, is the ability to log into root as a user ,(no fiddling with command lines)... good hardware support too...

Now if only there was an RPM version of AptOnCd, it'd be perfect.

A SuSE snob? Moi? 

Posted Wednesday 19th March 2008 13:33 GMT

Dead Vulture

I've been using SuSE since around V6, and I like it. I'm hardly likely to try and cop an attitude over anyone else's distro, however, since a lot of the reason why I switched had more to do with my dislike of Redhat, not a specific liking for SuSE.

But I can't answer for anyone else. You see, generalisations can be dangerous. Including that one!

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