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Comments on: Fire extinguishes debate over historic IBM shop

because we have so few big box stores 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 01:57 GMT

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If the IBM building were going to be torn down to build a hospital, school, or low- income/ affordable housing, that would be one thing. But for yet another big box store (the majority of which seldom, if ever, repay in tax revenues or local employment the giveaways municipalities fall all over themselves to hand out or the expenses the municipalities incur vis- a- vis increased road maintenance, police patrolling, ad nauseum)? Sadness, just sadness.

heh 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 03:00 GMT

"Convenient" doesn't being to describe this. Not just convenient for the city, but convenient for Lowes. I always mistrust "convenience" of this nature. I hope the local inspector is truly independent...

big stores bring jobs and money. yeah 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 04:24 GMT

Flame

Like the hardware superstore that was built in my mum's town. It created 180 new jobs, by putting out of business 3 smaller hardware stores resulting in 240 people being retrenched. Then, with the competition gone, they jacked the prices through the roof and there is nowhere within 150km where you can get a piece of wood that wasn't loaded onto the boat only half-cured and is hence warped like a pop-art sculpture by the time it is on the shelves.

Same with the big cloth store in same town that put all the local fabric shops out of business then trippled its prices overnight (really, it was overnight of the final competing store closing its doors). Then a few months later the ceiling of the store fell in in heavy rain and everyone has to travel 1 hour up the coast to get fabric for the next 6 months. And the idiots amongst the locals that went all starry-eyed over the 'big city' convenience they were getting can't understand what has happened or why the local economy is so bad lately.

I do wonder where all this money that these big stores supposedly bring to places that didn't have them before is supposed to magically spawn from, so I can go camp there ;-D

Convenient fire - convenience store 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 09:22 GMT

Happy

What - That amount of historical data and no backup ?

Another job well done 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 10:07 GMT

Flame

Another job well done by the city arsonist.

Good! 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 11:33 GMT

Flame

Having spent half my career in Silicon Valley, and the other half on the high-tech beltway of “historic” Boston, I’ve come to the conclusion that preserving nondescript ugly generic architecture office buildings because some high-tech innovation occurred within them simply shows how ridiculous the preservationist movement has become. Most "historic" industrial buildings are dumps that society would be better off knocking down & replacing rather than wasting time and money on. Furthermore, due to the age and cheap construction of industrial buildings put up since the mid-2oth century, “preserving” such buildings adds huge amounts of pollution to the environment keeping them running regardless of “improvements” to them due to their fundamental architectural & engineering flaws. And, they are all butt ugly. Knock ‘em down! What you replacement them with is up to the community & the landowner.

Moth and light 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 12:23 GMT

Paris Hilton

Even here in the UK if dev is planed on an historic site, this seems to aatract a high class of professional arsonist, who ensures the building is beyond repair long before the fire crews get there.

Soon you will be able to order direct from china anyway, why have stores?

Arsonist 47 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 12:42 GMT

Alert

Who is this person who keeps burning down disputed places to allow for modernisation?

First the one bit of Camden that they wanted to stick a bunch of utterly unwanted flats and now a major site of significance to the IT world...

Get some perspective 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 13:19 GMT

Paris Hilton

hey, it's just a building. Some clever stuff may have happened there, but that was PEOPLE not architecture. And if it's outlived it's purpose then why keep it around (which will cost money - from who?) rather than put the space to other productive uses?

If IBM couldn't see fit to hang onto it, then that says enough about it's value to me.

Paris, 'cos I haven't used her pic for a week or two ;-)

qui bono 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 14:36 GMT

fires are suspicious..

Those historic buildings sure are flammable 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 15:53 GMT

Joke

I, for one, am grateful to all these big box stores and condo developers - I mean, they seem to have a sixth sense for working out which buildings are built out of unsafe, flammable materials - look how many of them spontaneously combust while pesky hippies whine about historical value and 'culture'.

Anyone who tries to prevent these valiant individuals from protecting our children from the menace of flammable old buildings is unpatriotic and should be silenced.

@Get some perspective & Good! 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 16:00 GMT

Unhappy

Excellent!

A plaque marking the spot might be appropriate but 'preserving' the whole damn building? What's next - preserving the structure where the first 'smiley' was used?

The frowny because the smiley took offence and is off to form a committee.

Arsonists have their place in modern society... 

Posted Wednesday 12th March 2008 18:12 GMT

Heart

That arsonist should receive a bonus check, look at all the benefits gained from his work.

Financial savings, he saved hundreds of thousands of dollars from needlessly being spent, legal fees from continuing legal battles, all the costs of demolishing the building, and hauling and disposing of the debris.

environmental, he saved the environment from having to digest all the debris from a building that big.

training and experience, the san jose firefighters never get enough training, his services provided those firefighters with a grand opportunity to practice their skills on battling multi-alarm structure fires in large multi-story office complexes, you can never get enough practice at that...

there are many more unrealized benefits of this hero of modern civilization's work, he should be well paid for this type of higher thinking...

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