IBM shadow looms over next Eclipse
Visibility, independence concerns on e4
The question of whether IBM wields too much influence over Eclipse is again in the air, with Foundation members critical of the first steps towards the platform's next release.
Eclipse executive director Mike Milinkovich has responded to concerns over an apparent lack of diversity and of a railroading of technical decisions for the next version of Eclipse, e4, which appears to be dominated by IBMers.
Seventeen e4 committers appear to be drawn from IBM, three from Innopract and one former IBMer now working for tiny Code 9. Among those complaining are two Eclipse members from Wind River - Martin Oberhuber and Doug Gaff.
The beef is based on two elements: a lack of diversity in the design team for e4 and an assumption that it is OK to deliver a bunch of code as the basis for discussion rather than putting forward ideas and suggestions in the form of a proposal or cultivating community discussion.
Milinkovich has responded to Gaff's original email. "Anyone who has the ability to make the very serious time commitment to becoming a committer on e4 should step forward," Milinkovich said.
"IBM, Innoopract and Code 9 have indicated that they are going to make highly skilled people with significant time commitments available to move this project ahead. It would be wonderful if others, including Wind River, find themselves able to make the same commitment."
IBMer and Eclipse evangelist Chris Aniszcyk, meanwhile, was quick to defend IBM's role in e4.
Despite reassurances that IBM is not trying to hijack Eclipse 4.0, the criticism and concern looks set to continue over the way code has been contributed. You can follow the debate and catch up with the e4 team's justification of its decisions during this presentation at EclipseCon.®
Forget about NetBeans and Eclipse
Forget about all those GUIs whether it is NetBeans or Eclipse or IDEA or whatever !
You only have two options:
1. Emacs + OO-Browser
Anything other then those two is just a waste of resources.
@the previous posters saying NetBeans is better
Although I can't comment over whether NetBeans is better than Eclipse or not as I haven't used NetBeans for ages, the reason I stay on Eclipse is because a lot of the plugins I use are only available on that platform. Now, if Eclipse, NetBeans, Idea et al would come together and agree to a standard for plugins so that you could build IDE independant extensions, that would be great for developers and would foster competition. One can dream...
Have to agree on Netbeans
I've used both off and on over the past number of years, and until recently I'd have had a preference for Eclipse in terms of performance, flexibility etc. In version 6.0 however, Netbeans have produced a far better, more complete, IDE.