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Subtle Invasion 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 19:30 GMT

The wiki example is an interesting 'invasion' of that Web property, in that it highlights the superiority of the Google search results in finding relevant information quickly, primarily due to format of abstracts and key word weighting, over the native Wiki search.

Try "oil supply world war II" and note how much easier it is to find an article relevant to the subject via Google.

On a side note: why doesn't a search for string 'wikipedia.com' invoke this 'teleportation' feature?

Rocco

No eBay? 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 19:42 GMT

Didn't try it couldn't be bothered!

Could be a good thing if instead of 50 results for an item on eBay, I get one searchbar result for eBay and 49 results other than ones from eBay.

Virgin Holidays 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 19:54 GMT

IT Angle

Virgin Holidays gets one for some reason ... ooh ahh!

Googling Google to google Google 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 19:55 GMT

Coat

If you search for Google in the search box, Google does not offer the same search box underneath the weblink. While, initially, this makes obvious sense as the Google search box is empirically and always at the top; but does it also NOT make sense provided the statement and logic derived therefrom? (obviously, again, Google has precluded themselves from their own algoRythm... but why?)

Right... right... coat, door, exit stage left.

Or use.. 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:04 GMT

"<search term> site:theregister.com" for example ;)

I see another inane patent being issued 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:05 GMT

Flame

On this trivial & obvious "search". Google, like Amazon, think that by giving something a new name, its a new invention. And the USPTO is stupid enough to swallow it.

@Chris 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:17 GMT

"On a side note: why doesn't a search for string 'wikipedia.com' invoke this 'teleportation' feature?"

Probably because Wikipedia's actual site is wikipedia.org (wikipedia.com is just a redirect). Obviously, Google feels that when you search for a site, you should know the address of the site you're searching for ; )

No icon because I'd like an "evil google" icon, but they don't do evil, so there couldn't be such an icon...

nothing new..... 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 21:08 GMT

this really isn't anything new. in fact it's already ava. at http://google.search.a-remotehost.com/

they (the folks at a-remotehost.com) also have a 'in a window' (at least that's what they cal it) version that opens a smaller browser google search window. they set it up so the user can keep a google window open, browse the web, then search any specific site they come across or search the web in general. sounds kinda like google saw something someone else was doing and decided to do the same.

Re: No Ebay? 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 21:12 GMT

Coat

I am suprised that Google don't provide an Ebay search. Google could make a good living from Ebay by driving traffic to their site via searches. Oh, wait...

What do you think happens... 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 21:28 GMT

Boffin

...if you google search for Yahoo?

re: Googling Google to google Google 

Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 22:45 GMT

Coat

Haven't you watched the IT crowd?.... it'll break the internet it will

Mines the one with the gloves sewn to the sleeves

So ther 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 00:26 GMT

Black Helicopters

> One of the trends we noticed while studying teleporting was that there were lots of searchers who would type the name of a specific website as if they wanted to teleport, but would then immediately issue another more refined search _within_this_ site. (_my_emphasis_)

So how did they know, unless clicking on a link actually opened the new site in a frame with Google monitoring the traffic? I doubt that "lots of searchers" know the "site:blah" syntax.

Or did the muppets just mean "Our engine returned so much crap, the user refined their search" ?

RE: So ther(e) 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 05:02 GMT

"So how did they know, unless clicking on a link actually opened the new site in a frame with Google monitoring the traffic?"

Have you not visited a lot of websites recently? Seems half the world is using google analytics, and the other half is using google syndication, both of which require javascript (and blocked here by noscript). There's no need for frame trickery when your spying tools are installed on any site the user might choose to visit.

stuff Google already indexes? 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 05:44 GMT

@tfewster: Some websites (municipal, educational) have a "search powered by Google" widget; I'm not sure how exactly this works, but they probably have a "harvest keyword search queries" subroutine that allows them to see if/how folks use these search widgets on the specific sites, and if it'd be more "productive" (however they define it) to cough up a search box within the results for www.somesite.com

RE: RE: So ther(e) 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 06:58 GMT

@ system + skeptical i

Neat - And it's probably even more underhand than that, as the example they gave "NASA", _doesn't_ say "powered by Google" and NoScript doesn't list google-analytics as one of the sites blocked

Where's the tinfoil hat icon?

Re: So ther (sic.) 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 08:17 GMT

There's no indication that they mean searching using the site's searching tools at all. Within that site just means using Google to search for results within that site. Am I the only person who that seems obvious to?

RE: Re: So ther (sic.) 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 09:36 GMT

No, I've done that a few times.

Google for, say, hmso. See from the results that it's at hmso.gov.uk (IIRC), then google for `<crap I want to find> site:hmso.gov.uk

Anything for a Buck 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 11:25 GMT

Thumb Down

Anything to know what you are doing..

Seems more preferential than algorithmic 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 12:30 GMT

It's probably be a combination of the two. Though it's still just a search within a search, so there's no need for it to called teleportation. Stealing an old word for marketing fools no one.

For Teleportation read Interception 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 12:50 GMT

Pirate

The prize here is simple. Keep the eyes of the masses on Google. If they are indexing Wiki then there is no need to use Wiki searching.. all fair, until the assisted advertising that will eventually come. If they have you reading wiki results from google they control the real estate, which means they can advertise more.

Quite insideous really. Jolly Roger because this is piracy on a grand scale and everyone is blinking in the headlights.

Register you need to add some Google CEO angel and devil, 'cos obviously they do no evil.

Giveaway? 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 13:31 GMT

Gates Horns

Odd. They 'give' this feature to Amazon but not Barnes and Noble. Lawsuit anyone?

I wonder how much they will charge the catalog sales folks; Eddie Bauer, L. L. Bean, etc. to add this to their records.

Anyone else amused that they enabled this for Microsoft?

It's a hack 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 13:51 GMT

it doesn't even work for amazon.co.uk.

I suspect a dose of:

if $searchterm in (amazon,nasa,...) then $teleportSearchMode = true;

Feedback 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 15:05 GMT

I wonder if its a feature activated by the presence of a google search appliance reporting information back.

http://www.google.com/enterprise/public_search.html

I for one... 

Posted Friday 7th March 2008 17:22 GMT

...would welcome that feature for the IBM web site. It's impossible to find anything there by using their own search.

Re: I for one... 

Posted Saturday 8th March 2008 03:03 GMT

Coat

IBM WEBSITE SEARCH RESULTS:

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