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Comments on: DC Comics to kill off Batman?

"Sure to shock you!!!" 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 15:08 GMT

Coat

In a World Gonne Madd, with 1000 elephants!!!!

Superheroes never die ... 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 15:18 GMT

... permanently.

Granted, a few members of superhero groups have died permanently (or, rather, they haven't been resurrected yet), but superheroes with long-running solo-titles and high name recognition are never gone for very long.

It has happened, though, that the person behind the mask has changed. Even Batman was for a while someone other than Bruce Wayne. So a possibility is that they will (more or less permanently) kill Bruce Wayne and have someone else take up the uniform and name after a suitable time, with DC announcing The All New Batman, Like You Have Never Seen Him Before.

Additionally, both Marvel and DC are known for occasionally making "resets", where they write off all that has happened before, starting all their titles over from scratch. So after killing a suitable number of heroes, they may announce The All New DC Universe, Like You Have Never Seen It Before.

In other words: Yawn, what else is new?

Check the month! 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 15:28 GMT

Coat

Of course, if he pops his clogs in the April edition, it's all just a big joke.

Nooooooo!!!! 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 15:43 GMT

Coat

They can't kill off the Dark Knight... when the graphic novels have him fighting crime in Gotham as an OAP.

Mine's the cape and the cowl....

Captain America 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 15:44 GMT

Paris Hilton

isnt this just a copy of marvel killing off Captain America last year ?

I am Batman, no more. 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 15:52 GMT

I can see Bruce Wayne being killed off, there's a bunch of folks more then willing to don the cape and cowl.

John Constantine could even come along and fill the role for a while, would beat Marvel's The Punisher pretending to be Captain America for sure

Not again... 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 15:54 GMT

I'm not sure Batman needs to die, although, admittedly the return of Superman was actually quite good - as far as Superman stories go (The return of Green Arrow was a fun story, but completely ridiculous, and Green Lantern's return stretched credibility almost as much).

Can't some people just stay alive?

At some point, Batman probably does need to retire or die, and be replaced (probably by Dick Grayson) by someone who isn't emotionally crippled and can actually form long term relationships... whilst strapping on rubber/neoprene at night and beating up other men. Never mind..

To try and not get too fan nerdy though - please no more commissioner's wife or female Batman sidekick deaths - it's lazy plotting and somewhat misogynist.

A new Batman? 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 16:03 GMT

Gates Halo

Well it's time for batman of the future. Qualifications are rich, smart, gadgets everywhere, big mansion.

Come on guys, you know who it's going to be (hint see picture). Yes it's MS Batman!, and hopefully he will lock up i-pod users by the dozen for crimes commited again'st humanity (string 'em up by with their pathetic "please don't mug me" white wires.....

Canonical? 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 16:10 GMT

So he gets a back broken... and returns.

He retires... and returns.

At what point in his already stretched career is he going to die? (And then return.)

One step further 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 16:24 GMT

Coat

DC has done something like this before, with a super villan called Bane. Who "Broke the Bat"

Leading to someone called Jean Paul Valley taking over the cape.

see Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)

Interested to see how they actually kill the Bat. As to do that would mean killing Dick Grason and anyone else who could take over the mantle of the Batman.

/annorak

Title 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 16:30 GMT

To rise from the grave as vampire Batman ?

@ Mark Broadhurst 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 16:39 GMT

Isn't that in return a copy of DC killing Superman years ago? Which in return was a copy of Marvel killing Captain Marvel before that? Which in return was.....

You get the idea.

@Peter and Alex 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 17:21 GMT

Go

did you ever see the cartoon "Batman Beyond"? In that universe, Bruce Wayne is a retiree who, after a strange set of circumstances, takes on a teenage martial artist as his "replacement." The kid has the "new" Bat suit complete with rocket boosters, loads of hyper-groovy sensors, and even a "stealth" mode where he becomes more or less invisible a la Predator.

Perhaps DC who, IIRC, "sanctioned" that cartoon is taking it to comic form. There has also been talk of a Batman Beyond movie. Perhaps this is the first step in that direction. In the pilot episode of Batman Beyond, an aging Bruce Wayne (in the aforementioned "new" Bat suit) is forced to defend himself with a gun because his age had finally caught up with him. Having previously stated that he would never use a gun, he decides it's time to hang up the cape. Fast forward several years and along comes the kid. yada yada yada good story.

I could be all wet, but the dominos seems to align rather well.

In the 21st Century, everything changes. 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 17:26 GMT

Coat

Why not Captain Jack Harkness?

Nobody stays dead... 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 17:37 GMT

Pirate

...in the comics, except Gwen Stacy, Uncle Ben and Jason Todd, it has been famously noted by smarter readers than I.

But at least they are killing a male character for a change: http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/

Dumb 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 18:02 GMT

Thumb Down

Instead of killing and reviving superheros, just let them retire.

Invent a new superhero. With new powers. And new villains.

But, I guess I can see the problem. What new powers does one bestow on these characters that hasn't already been done before?

they could go for the Dallas option 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 18:11 GMT

Coat

where it was all a dream!

the purple jacket with the acid spraying flower please

canon 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 18:17 GMT

there are a number of batman timelines that are considered canon, such as the dark night returns etc.

Stopping Brucey from being Batman now would need some serious justification for the more geekier fans.

At the end of the day, there are loads of different permuatations to cater for all future Batman films/series/comics/graphic novels/lunchboxes/commerative dog blankets/hand crafted gifts and cross stich designs.

nothing to see here 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 18:37 GMT

Pirate

tried and tested method innit. comic geeks love it, the media love it for some reason, i guess because it's an easy story and everyone's heard of batman, and bizarrely people who never buy comics buy the comics.

Think of the canon! 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 18:40 GMT

We already know Bruce Wayne (or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof) lives well into the 21st century, as he is the doddering old mentor to a new Batman, Terry McGinnis.

irony? 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 19:01 GMT

Joke

"Green Lantern's return stretched credibility almost as much"

funny to read that in a thread that is discussing fictional characters with

(usually) non-terrestrial powers.

>> The Green Lantern is credible enough, but for him to return?... nah..

bit too far fetched for me<<

:-p

anyway, everyone knows I am the true Batman

anyone remember the line in South Park, return of Chef

"And he lived for eternity .... until he was hit by a train in 1892"

or something like that...

Two words. 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 23:26 GMT

Coat

ZOMBIE BATMAN.

How cool is that?

OK, that was six words. Thirteen now.

Bad timing? 

Posted Thursday 24th January 2008 23:50 GMT

Pirate

Is it not bad timing to kill off Batman when the guy playing the Joker in the imminent Batman movie has just died himself?

Hmm... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 01:02 GMT

Joke

Batman R.I.P. is the title... and they say people are going to be shocked? Unless the title is a lie! They would NEVER do that (lie), of course...

Re: Nobody stays dead... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 04:33 GMT

Coat

"...in the comics, except Gwen Stacy, Uncle Ben and Jason Todd, it has been famously noted by smarter readers than I."

...and Jason is back...

(sad, really...)

And? 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 08:12 GMT

IT Angle

Lawnmowers For Heroes, Comics For Zeros, as the poet sang.

@Alex: MS Batman... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 08:37 GMT

Coat

wouldn't he crash a lot

(AKA sir Crashalot?)

@ Matt 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 08:57 GMT

"But, I guess I can see the problem. What new powers does one bestow on these characters that hasn't already been done before?"

I submit the characters Wonderboy and Young Nasty Man to the house!

As for powers? Well, how about the power of flight? That do anything for you? Thats levitation, homes! Or how about the power to kill a Yak? From two hundred yards away? With MIND BULLETTS?!?

Or, you know, whatever floats your boat.

been done before.... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 09:01 GMT

Batman was killed off in one storyline in the late 1960's and replaced by his doppelganger from a parallel universive

Yeah... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 09:49 GMT

...but Adam West's is still alive which renders all of this unimportant

Next Batman should be... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 10:14 GMT

Pirate

Lobo.

"Fight crime? No. I'm going to kick the shit out of puppies and drop a deuce on your nan's car. Then punt Santa into the sun."

I don't know if he'd do that, but he's just about awesome enough to get away with it.

RE: Nobody stays dead 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 10:42 GMT

Pirate

"...in the comics, except Gwen Stacy, Uncle Ben and Jason Todd, it has been famously noted by smarter readers than I."

Jason Todd has been revived. Indeed, many have suggested that he might take over as Batman if DC did kill him off. Gwen Stacy nearly got brought back this year and a last minute editorial swerve reversed directions. Uncle Ben has been brought back and killed off loads of times.

Only Bucky stays dead. Except he got revived too and is Captain America now.

Anyway, hasn't this whole Batman being killed off story been debunked already? There's some suggestion it was the original plan (though "killing him" was going to mean ascending him to being a New God, meaning he'd still be around and could fight Darkseid in the upcoming Final Crisis, which isn't really "killing" a character off), but Warner have pointed out they have a new Batman film coming out this year, so this isn't happening.

Underpant perverts persist 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 11:23 GMT

Black Helicopters

This is just more soap.

In (whatever time duration the accountants dictate) the poor old guy will wake up in the shower and find it was all a dream, but such a good dream he could actually be the Bat Man! OooEeerr, da da da da - da da da da

Bat Copter Icon, cuz its the right color

Actually... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 12:48 GMT

Look up Batman & Dracula: Red Rain.

If memory serves, at the end, despite beating "Dracula", Batman himself has become a vampire - so he's already dead. Vampire Batman gets my vote - just like Batman but just every so slightly more evil, stronger and harder to kill... Wayne Industries would have to invest in some serious sun block research however.

@Chris Cheale 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 13:14 GMT

Stop

"just like Batman but just every so slightly more evil, stronger and harder to kill"

Ah! Emo Bat Man then. Here we go again

I for one... 

Posted Friday 25th January 2008 13:38 GMT

...welcome our new Bat-Lobo overlod.

That would get me into collecting comics again.

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