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In OverDrive's Novice mode, the tuning is controlled by a slider that has ten positions. We worked through the options and were surprised to see how little the clocks increased at each step. For instance, level 3 raises the PCI Express (PCIe) bus from 104MHz to 108MHz, while level 4 bumps up HyperTransport from 200MHz to 202MHz.
AMD's OverDrive: tweaking the CPU clock
The difference between level 1 and level 10 is that the CPU rose from 2220MHz to 2255MHz, memory speed from 1066MHz to 1094MHz, PCIe from 100MHz to 120MHz, and the Hyper Transport bus from 200MHz to 205MHz which all looks a bit feeble really. The PCMark05 score went from 7723 marks to 8050 which is rather negligible.
Overclocking the 2.4GHz Phenom raised the CPU speed to 2460MHz, the memory to 1094MHz, PCIe bus to 120MHz and HyperTransport to 205MHz with the result that the PCMark05 score rose from 8183 to 8397.
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Naturally. we also tried the OverDrive in Advanced Mode but we found that overclocking the Phenom 9500 was very hit and miss. If you can persuade a Phenom to run above 2.6GHz you’ll have done very well indeed and it very much feels as though AMD has launched these new processors at clock speeds which sound rather low but which are close to the limits of stable performance.
Verdict
AMD has clearly priced the Phenom at the same level as the Q6600 and in that respect it misses the mark as the Intel option delivers better performance at standard clock speeds and will overclock like a dream.
To add to AMD’s woes, Intel is already making the transition to the 45nm 'Penryn', which will raise clock speeds way out of reach of Phenom. At the other end of the scale, Intel can use its ‘faulty’ architecture to dish up dual-core processors which will keep costs down while the best that AMD can do is to disable one core and release the result as a tri-core Phenom 8000.
It seems that 2008 is not going to be a good year for AMD.
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Upgrading from Athlon XP3200 - Is AMD any good nowadays?
Hi I have had and still got my trusty Athlon XP 3200 that I have used for virtually everything for the past few years, but a recent mainboard failure (Soltek Nforce 2 400 ultra type) left me finding replacements hard to find. I found only on'new' or unused Nforce 2 400 mobo on sale on Ebay which I was lucky to win - or daft enough to bid high enough for!
Anyways I decided that its time to move game playing from the XP machine and build a new one.
But reading reviews and so on its not clear whats any good these days. Intel or AMD, but whats bugging me is the AMD seem to swap sockets after only a brief time - one socket seems to be just a partial change to yet another. I think that phrase 'Futureproof' must be some joke!
What I'm considering is a small form case MATX mobo, single HD (sata), graphics card (doh), sound card, memory 2 -4 gb,one dvd rom/writer. Inshort this machine is for games only and the more serious stuff I'm leaving to my newly repaired Athlon XP3200 machine, the Radeon X800XL Agp card might as well stay there too I feel.
My problem is Intel or Amd? Once it was clear, AMD were cheaper and offered performance that more often than not beat Intel hands down - but today it is so unclear! Even prices seem muddy and as for chipsets too!!!
There is nothing phenomenal with Phenom.
Indeed David (AMD Athlon 64/X2) kicked Goliath (Intel - Netburst).
But now David 2.0 (Phenom) can't do that anymore and the chip giant is still on the lead... pounding poor little AMD. David 1.0 can even beat David 2.0.
Thus, there's really nothing phenomenal with the Phenom.
We all know that despite Intel processors are still on FSB and separate memory controller hub, beats AMD in overall aspects. Imagine what Intel "Nehalem" can do more with its hypertransport-like bus and integrated memory controller http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_%28CPU_architecture%29 .
As for me, I will use AMD for budget reasons, and definitely go Intel for performance. Cheers to all! 8)
Poor AMD....
I had been using them for ten years now, the K6's, Athlons, all great. Up until recently they produced brilliant chips at a brilliant price. Then came the Core 2 and it was an utter empire strikes back moment, and since then AMD haven't had an answer. I may of been said to of been a bit of an AMD fan through the last ten years, but even I moved to the Core 2 and it's been incredible (unlike how utterly dreadful the P4's were). AMD really need to so something as currently they just can't answer the Core 2's. Intel seems to have the performance edge well in the bag currently, and with plenty of room to take the CPU's also. Poor AMD :(
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