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Comments on: Nato secrets USB stick lost in Swedish library

Not just the UK Govt then 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 13:08 GMT

Paris Hilton

Good to see our fellow EU/NATO homeboiz are as equally as adept as losing important things as good old HM UK Government! I wouldnt mind having a peek at said NATO secrets! I really dont know why you'd hand such an item in....

Your mission, Jim ...... 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 13:19 GMT

Flame

"Some can even self-destruct (internally) and erase everything on the drive using technology that physically overwrites every byte, making the data entirely unrecoverable. "

Obviously there should be a puff of white smoke to go with it :)

PS Article doesn't say which country the stick belonged to

Eh? 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 13:21 GMT

Dead Vulture

"military-grade AES hardware-based encryption"

As opposed to the other sort? No, wait, AES is a standard, so it's the same everywhere.

Jumping on the bandwagon... 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 13:43 GMT

Stop

2008: the year of the "Oops! I've lost all your secret/personal data, silly me!" news headline. And the UK still leads the way in Europe (nay they world?) by a rather large margin.

Poor sod who found it. 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 14:04 GMT

"I really don't know why you'd hand such an item in."

Indeed not. On the one hand, all good citizens should feel it is their duty to alert their government to such mistakes. On the other hand, they just know that they will never be able to prove that they didn't snarf a copy before handing it in and so doing the Right Thing will almost certainly mean they spend the rest of the lives on the Terror Watchlist.

Media problems 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 14:27 GMT

Boffin

The data-loss problem that governments/businesses are currently experiencing can entirely be attributed to the small size of data media nowadays. A single USB stick or DVD can hold massive databases of customer information, credit card numbers, or classified secrets; and can be placed within a coat pocket, glove box, library book, down the back of the sofa, anywhere likely to be forgotten.

That's where my solution comes in. I will soon be launching my range of unlosable(tm) memory sticks. Each stick contains 16gb of data (more than enough for NATO troop movement maps, adult product customers' credit card details, taxpayer's intimate details) and is embedded within a 150kg block of granite, embossed with your country's flag or logo of your choice. The block is painted flourescent green and a flashing light and klaxon are activated when data is first written to the stick. There are also attachments for optional handcuffs, for permanent connection with the junior civil servant / delivery boy of your choice.

On the plus side 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 14:34 GMT

At least it's cheaper than losing the whole laptop...

@Ian Ferguson 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 14:53 GMT

Does it have a GPS tracker and a motion sensitive/contact switch activated fisheye lens cameras to see who interfering with it?

Bogus self-destruction 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 15:01 GMT

> Some can even self-destruct

The last that I heard about "self-destructing" flash drives was some rather negative coverage:

http://tweakers.net/reviews/683

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/04/a_security_mark.html

Perhaps there are drives out there that are secure, but I would personally prefer to use a regular drive and encryption software on the PC.

old-style "security" 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 15:19 GMT

Alert

I'd propose doing what we do with important key bunches... attach whopping great big day-glo tags to them so that they can't be pocketed and stand out like a sore thumb when set down anywhere... that way, you can't accidentally take them home in your pocket...

Outsourcing 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 15:41 GMT

Coat

I didn't know HMRC been contracted out to lose nato/swedish data as well.

I'll get my long brown coat (and go sit on a bench muttering "red squirrel looks east in October")

,,,,embedded within a 150kg block of granite.. 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 16:01 GMT

Jobs Horns

I think God still has the patent on the block of granite idea...

@ken hagan ... 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 17:01 GMT

Black Helicopters

How to hand it in?

Make your own copy of it, then post it anonymously to [journalist|embassy] of your choice.

Even more important question... 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 17:18 GMT

Coat

Why the hell did the original, unknown, user put classified NATO data on a memory stick in the first place? Jesus-tap-dancing-Christ, didn't anyone involved with setting up what must be a fairly complex NATO defense network ever stop to think about allowing users to make copies on removable media?

I mean, there are literally thousands of different ways to make secure dumb terminals, encrypted transfers, multi-token authentication, etc, etc, etc. Does NATO not have a single competent BOFH?

Hell, do they accept unsolicited resumes for high ranking positions? I could do better. Or, at least fake it better, which is basically the same thing.

Unlosable... 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 20:13 GMT

Coat

The keys to the dark room and centrifuge room in my old department were tied to 2 liter plastic bottles (empty, of course), so no idio... I mean student would stick it in the pocket, forget about it, take it home, lose it... Maybe 2 liter PET bottle should be made into military grade stuff too?

@Even more important question 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 21:11 GMT

Coat

Did anyone else mis-read that as Lap Dancing, or is it just reflection on me.

Have you a long one in asbestos, I think I going somewhere hot for eternity

re Unlosable... 

Posted Friday 4th January 2008 22:36 GMT

Thumb Up

You could have just attached the keys directly to the student. Then not only would you be able find them ( if time<11:00am = bed else = bar )

but with a bit of training you could make them come to you when you whistle, like those key rings that beep when you lose them.

I wonder if 

Posted Saturday 5th January 2008 02:18 GMT

Pirate

since they generally have internet connected computers in libraries if someone hadn't just downloaded the lot and stuck it on a usb stick and then forgot to take it with them. I think that makes it more interesting than just a lost usb fob.

still get lost.... 

Posted Saturday 5th January 2008 02:32 GMT

IT Angle

Beancounters said we used up too many pens at our media library. So on instruction from managers I taped and glued a length of small link chain to a pen leading to a lump of wood and yes still got lost. Started to glue them inside a 3 foot length of bamboo thinking pockets are not that deep; worked for a while untill someone thought they were 'cool' .........The epoxy glue cost more than a box of cheap pens.

Then finally a 'old' PC and printer were used to print out media library request slips details which were typed in another system when media was handed over.

I love it... 

Posted Saturday 5th January 2008 14:47 GMT

"It is unclear how the USB stick ended up in the library."

But, so long as all these USB sticks holding classified military secrets don't end up in anymore libraries, we should be just peachy.

Can we go back to paper and typewriters now?

Secret information on a USB Flash disk? 

Posted Saturday 5th January 2008 23:49 GMT

To be honest, I hope the guy gets thrown out of their job and banged up for this one.

Its pretty bleeding obvious you shouldn't be putting NATO Secret data onto a flash drive...

Eh. 

Posted Sunday 6th January 2008 03:10 GMT

Black Helicopters

I'd be more intrigued as to what NATO secrets are doing waltzing around in a neutral country.

insanity 

Posted Sunday 6th January 2008 17:15 GMT

When I did a contract job at bank of America they would not let us walk out with pen and paper for security reasons. Didn't say a damn thing about our PDA's or my colleagues that had thumb drives on their key rings..

Flash drive's contents posted to a blog 

Posted Monday 7th January 2008 08:59 GMT

Marked "TOP SECRET"

"It would appear the Warsaw Pact disbanded nearly twenty years ago. Anyone know why we still have monthly roundtable meetings, or is that answer Above Top Secret?"

Gun drives 

Posted Monday 7th January 2008 09:11 GMT

Jobs Halo

give them top secret flash drives in the shape of a gun to make it more obvious how they should be treated.

Anyone else reminded... 

Posted Wednesday 9th January 2008 12:32 GMT

...of the Armstrong and Miller sketches where the Prime Minister (or someone) walks out of an official meeting, leaves a horrifically important document/treaty/wife behind him, and after dithering, refuses to go back for it because of the embarrassment of re-entering the room?

Can see it happening.

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