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Math...s 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 00:58 GMT

Through work with law enforcement investigators, Jackson has seen losses of $200,000, but because he believes he is seeing only about 10 percent of the operation, he believes total losses could be as high as $1m

...and he's in charge of a financial investigation??

Re: Math...s 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 01:51 GMT

Perhaps he's seeing the most successful 10 percent based on other details too boring for print. Of course, Stan truly wants to believe in simple proportions, because trolls' hands are so big.

Lies, damn lies and statistics 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 09:42 GMT

Boffin

Just goes to show how meaningless most statistics printed or reported are. Stating "10% of the operation" means absolutely nothing. How do you define "the operation", is it value of fraud, number of fraudulent transactions, number of people caught carrying out fraudulent transactions, etc., etc.

You'll find that many media sources (not just El Reg), quote meaningless statistics all the time, stats that *sound* as though they make sense, but when you actually stop to think about it mean less than nothing, and are just pretty window dressing to make the article seem as though there is actually some scientific analysis in there.

In fact I'd go so far as to say that 99% of articles quoting statistics are just plain nonsense.

re: Lies, damn lies and statistics 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 10:25 GMT

Coat

87.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot. 8 out of 10 people know that!

/coat

Which banks are targetted? 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 11:21 GMT

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Key information isn't it?

maths not their strong point 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 11:56 GMT

Alert

I know its only numbers, but if they're only seeing 10% of the fraud (and yes, I know they're guessing at that) then surely it would be $2m and not $1m if they've had reports of $200k so far?

Apparently 75% 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 12:01 GMT

Coat

of people make up three quarters of the population.

Why is this news? 

Posted Tuesday 18th December 2007 15:02 GMT

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Bank stealing trojans like this have been around for years, and have stolen much more money than this. Not sure why this is being considered news.

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