By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 4th December 2007 17:50 GMT
I am also mildly Aspergian and was bullied at school, and yet, somehow, I managed to avoid accidentally acquiring control of a huge number of other people's computers and unintentionally exploiting them for a variety of illegal and/or unethical purposes.
After reading this story I can only count myself lucky.
By heystoopidPosted Tuesday 4th December 2007 19:32 GMT
Ah , the lad has excellent potential to be a future employee of ASIO/ASIS as most of those wowsers they employ barely have an adequate number of brain cells to switch on their government issue laptops and have a known history of leaving secret files behind in buildings being demolished !
Although I hear all their cars have a boot full of right arms and mirrors just to find you know what !
Perhaps the misunderstood lad needs a mentor like Paris ?
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 4th December 2007 21:58 GMT
"was something of a loner at school who was picked on by bullies."
We've probably a whole range of people reading this, who were also picked on by bullies at school. Very unpleasant. I think it's a shame that this incident will probably be "processed" without drawing attention to the part bullying played in it.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 5th December 2007 01:17 GMT
lesson that can, does not equal shall. Honestly if he had any imagination he would have realised he could get caught, and not done it does Aspergers syndrome keep you from imagining jail.If every geek on earth who had a socialisation problem did this there'd be no internet. Now get off of my lawn.
By lglethalPosted Wednesday 5th December 2007 01:46 GMT
This guy is from NEW ZEALAND.
ASIO is AUSTRALIAN.
I know the two country's are close together and get on pretty well but i dont think ASIO has the right to black bag kiwi's in New Zealand yet...
So a person who masterminded an operation to take over thousand's of computers and infect others with malware, etc "did not actively set out to get involved in cybercrime". Right...
"Just give me a ZX81, and I’ll control the world." #
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 5th December 2007 07:57 GMT
Do you think I'm a megalomaniac?
What's the difference between a Kiwi and a Tourist? #
By Wayne SPosted Wednesday 5th December 2007 09:36 GMT
By b shubinPosted Wednesday 5th December 2007 16:12 GMT
"Apologize to ze nice Geahhman mann, dollink, ohhr you vill be shott, ya?"
yes, he must be the very epitome of evil. don't tell me, you've never dealt with a case of arrested social development before?
it is common for slightly retarded humans (it's not PC, it's harsh and offensive, but it is accurate, and not meant pejoratively - no flames please) to have little or no moral judgement. many can benefit from formal statements of society's rules, and/or psychological counseling, but few receive such advice. societies do not teach that sort of thing in a structured way, it falls under the "upbringing" and "parenting" catchalls (as if normal parents are trained to deal with such situations).
i moved from the USSR to the US at age 10, and the socialization process was extremely uneven, traumatic, and unpleasant. the culture shock was more severe because most kids in my school didn't like immigrants. i adjusted, but some people do not.
i can easily see how this guy could have developed into a criminal (a desire for acceptance and validation was likely a big part of it), and he's definitely not an isolated case.
at least he didn't shoot anyone. comparing him to Hitler is absurd.
By Gianni StranieroPosted Wednesday 5th December 2007 19:44 GMT
It's a shame, how I carried on at school. I think back to the way I treated some kids and I'm surprised they didn't kick me to death.
All the same, I bumped into one of my victims the other day, and he's turned out good-looking, successful, fabulously wealthy, and is fending off the advances of the hottest chicks in town.
I, OTOH, am now a complete dork, sell insurance, and couldn't get laid at a hooker convention.
So, kids, keep it real and don't use bullying as an excuse to commit horrendous crimes against humanity, like selling the odd spam-distributing botnet.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 5th December 2007 21:58 GMT
A kid with Aspergers isn't "retarded".
Social issues he may have.
Is there anyone reading this that can concentrate on the details of thousand of lines of code, has a limited social life mostly with like minded blokes and can be fascinated or obsessed by precise technical details?
Or as Wikipeadia puts it;
"AS.... is one of several autism spectrum disorders (ASD) characterized by difficulties in social interaction and by restricted and stereotyped interests and activities. AS is distinguished from the other ASDs in having no general delay in language or cognitive development. "
By Mike NorrishPosted Thursday 6th December 2007 02:20 GMT
Heh... Should have figured the press would pick up on the whole AS thing.
Seriously, AS shouldn't provide this kid with any sort of excuse- how many people here have AS, have been subjected to heavy bullying and HAVEN'T been tempted to commit serious cyber-crime? Our social difficulties do not extend to not knowing the difference between right and wrong...
Comments on: Mum defends suspected Kiwi botmaster
"did not actively set out to get involved in cybercrime" #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 15:24 GMT
"did not actively set out to get involved in cybercrime" #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 16:06 GMT
Godwin's Law in one! #
By J Jones Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 16:24 GMT
And Hitler... #
By The Other Steve Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 17:15 GMT
"brilliant computer programmer" #
By De Zeurkous Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 17:34 GMT
I count myself lucky #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 17:50 GMT
Kids eh #
By Anthony Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 18:33 GMT
Ah #
By heystoopid Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 19:32 GMT
@ heystoopid #
By Brett Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 21:31 GMT
He's not the messia ... #
By Robin Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 21:37 GMT
bullying #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 21:58 GMT
@ Anthony- #
By Rick Brasche Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 22:55 GMT
Time for the #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 01:17 GMT
@Heystoopid #
By lglethal Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 01:46 GMT
"Just give me a ZX81, and I’ll control the world." #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 07:57 GMT
What's the difference between a Kiwi and a Tourist? #
By Wayne S Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 09:36 GMT
@the other steve #
By TeeCee Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 10:22 GMT
Historically accurate #
By b shubin Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 16:12 GMT
@Anon 5/12/07 07:57 GMT #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 18:52 GMT
Bullying #
By Gianni Straniero Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 19:44 GMT
Retarded - not #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 21:58 GMT
Aspergers takes the cop again... #
By Mike Norrish Posted Thursday 6th December 2007 02:20 GMT
@De Zeurkous #
By Edward Pearson Posted Friday 7th December 2007 15:29 GMT