I have MSDN and I cant find it anywhere, it seems MSDN Professional Subscriptions are bottom of the pecking order

I'm scared of just how much of a behemoth it's likely to be. VS 2005 was horrific enough (try service packing it with 1 gig of ram and less than 4 gig on C and see what I mean). I'm thinking without 2 gig and dual core it's going to be pointless even trying to install 2008..oh, and, say, 12 gig of free disk space?

What happened to microsoft update becoming a torrent service?

definately cannot find it anywhere on msdn subscriptions just rolls round and round 2 screens saying how great it would be to download if you were a subscriber.

There's 2 ways to download it. The normal way, using the FTM and navigating through the tree-view in the subscriber downloads. Currently only the full Team Suite edition is available that way - they're staggering the availability of the editions using this method.

The other method is to use the 'Top Downloads' section on the MSDN page which includes every edition of Visual Studio 2008, including the MSDN Library and Team Foundation Server etc. This uses the Akamai Download Manager (remember to enable pop-ups!). Bit weird results with IE7 and Vista (check C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Temporary Internet Files\Virtualized\C\Users\<user>\Documents\Download for the actual place it gets downloaded to). Worked better with Firefox on Vista.

I prefer the FTM method as it seems far more reliable, however the Akamai version gives far better and consistent download speeds.

So far, since lunch Monday, I've downloaded VS2008 Team Suite (x3), VS2008 Team Foundation Server, VS2008 Pro, VS2008 Express Editions, and VS2008 MSDN Library. So it's definitely working.

Glad they shipped this month - my free Team Suite subscription runs out on the 31st - hence the manic downloading!

That's an MSDN front page, before you get into the main MSDN UI. It uses a different download manager; you may not thank me for pointing this out, if you have anything aproaching the level of hassle with it that I've had.

Visual Studio 2008; the development suit for Windows ME2, sorry Vista. Argh that explains them keeping it quit. Not looking forward to developing with that; is the bug in my software, the development suit, or ME2...

SQL Server 2008 is scheduled to "launch" on 27.Feb.2008.

Microsoft has officially stated it would become available "in the second quarter of 2008".

Unless it gets delayed, of course. But that would never happen, right?

Cheers,

Dexter

I'm using

wget -c http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=104679

off linux to get it. Go figure!

VS2008 isn't really aimed at Vista specifically. Yes, you can now easily do WPF apps (which are really just .Net 3.0, available on XP for over a year) - but you can also target .Net framework 2.0, so exactly the same platforms VS2005 can target. There's lots of new features which are available to all .Net versions, not just 3.0/3.5 etc. And the best thing - that you can chose which .Net version you target - which means VS2005 can be ditched completely, working in VS2008 for 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 projects.

We don't target Vista at all for the stuff we do, but we're upgrading simply because of the new features available across the board.