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Sciurine death dive does for Toyota Camry

Published Wednesday 24th October 2007 09:55 GMT

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Surely an urn... 

By Michael H.F. Wilkinson
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 09:59 GMT

would be more appropriate?

Was the bonnet open? 

By Nick Pettefar
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 10:23 GMT
Flame

I'm having trouble visualising this insurance claim...

Insurance fraud? 

By Stu Reeves
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 10:23 GMT
Stop

Ok, let's look at this again.

Said animal was on power lines and chew through them. He's not earthed so how did he catch fire?

2. How did it get into the engine bay?

3. If said car "blew up" how did they identify the squirrel?

I'm still wondering... 

By Peter D'Hoye
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 10:35 GMT
Flame

...how a squirrel can slide into the motor compartiment

Damn thing knew what it was doing! 

By Edward Rose
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 10:35 GMT
Black Helicopters

I'm telling ya', either these squirrels are being mind controlled or the little buggers are suicidal. I'm sure these stories are more frequent now.

Back home they would wait in the trees on the roadside, and as a car came they'd dive for the wheels. Is forest life that stressful?

did anyone 

By EvilFairy
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 10:41 GMT

film it?

@Stu 

By Steve
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:00 GMT
IT Angle

Don't forget that most US homes are suplied by overhead lines from a pole-mounted transformer. Those lines will carry live & neutral twisted together, so when a set of small teeth completes the circuit, bye-bye Tufty...

Still don't know how it ended up in the engine compartment, though.

@Nick Pettefar and Peter D'Hoye 

By Rob Holmes
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:06 GMT
Joke

Well you know what the build quality is like on American cars, I'm sure a flaming squirrel would fit between the frankly rediculous panel gaps left by the shoddy manufacturing process.

;-)

RE: Insurance fraud 

By Matt Bryant
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:08 GMT
Happy

The squirrel wouldn't have to be earthed, just in contact with two wires with different voltages in relation to each other (such as a telephone wire). Or, he may have also been in contact with the earthed sheath of a cable TV cable, which I remember as often sharing poles with other wiring in the US.

And squirrels are pretty small under all that fur, if it had fallen at the base of the windscreen it could have gone into the area where the wipers sit, and from there either slid through the air gap into the engine bay, or melted its way through the plastic tray that is there on most cars. I have read of fruit bats causing underbonnet fires in cars in Malaysia, and they are bigger.

My own view is that it was intentional - obviously this squirrel was a patriotic critter incensed (quite literally) by the sight of a foreign motor....

Personalising the squirrel 

By Dougthedug
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:13 GMT
Pirate

I take it the squirrel's name was "Squirrel Nextofkin"?

@Stu 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:20 GMT
Boffin

1) if the cable in question was like the pole-to-home ones here, it was insulated two-core with an active and a neutral, so it is possible. A flatmate of mine once had a dead rat in his ceiling that would roast whenever the light was switched on. ewwww.

2) I can see no way for it to fall in to an engine bay. I guess if it was alive but burning it could have climbed in from beneath in a panic?

3) I have trouble believing a car engine would 'explode' or even burn significantly while switched off from such a case. They always explode for little reason in movies but in the real world, exploding cars are quite exceptional.

I tend to agree this sounds iffy.

Arc 

By J
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:25 GMT
Flame

I assume the squirrel was standing on the insulation. When he hit the live wire, he reduced the airgap by 8-9 inches, allowing an arc to the metal supports, and completing a circuit. This probably happened near a transformer, rather than a bog-standard power line.

Let's assume that he squirrel was rapidly raised to a very high temperature by this. His (or indeed her) fur would have quickly burned away, together with much of the skin. Combined with loss of fluid, this would have considerably reduce the squirrel diameter.

After falling onto the bonnet, the squirrel probably dripped burning squirrel fat through the gap near the windshield, which in turn set fire to oil or electrical cables in the engine compartment, leading eventually to the complete loss of the car.

Face it, the whole thing's made up by some local paper to boost sales just before their next advertising drive :-|

@Rob Holmes 

By Peter D'Hoye
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:34 GMT
Happy

It was a Toyota Camry....

I did Google for pics of that car before posting the question ;)

'S'bloody obvious, innit 

By Rose
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 11:37 GMT

The squirrel was working for Al Quaeda and it got the instructions for the whole thing off the Internet.

Only In America 

By evilbobthebob
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 12:21 GMT
Gates Horns

I say no more...

Sqwerls... 

By Lickass McClippers
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 12:26 GMT
Boffin

...are pure evil ... the sooner you peeps realise that and take appropriate action, the better ... those of us already in the know are aware that sqwerls consist entirely of dark evil anti-matter, and were sent here by malicious otherworldy powers to wipe us out ...

Hey Tone got a new motor? 

By pctechxp
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 12:40 GMT

It's got an anti-squr-rrel paint job.....

Nah think I'll abandon my Alexei Sayle impression.

Back to work for me

Sounds Like a RARE occurence 

By Martin Glenn
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 13:19 GMT
Coat

Was this a level in Conkers Bad Fur Day!

Or maybe RARE were testing out designs for Conkers 2. Alight & Exploded!

Hmmm 

By Vladimir Plouzhnikov
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 13:29 GMT

So, no Ice Age sequels anymore, eh?

Camera Phone 

By Rachel
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 13:29 GMT

Oh... come on! Where is the camera phone when you need it. I was sooo hoping for a vid.

Two lives & a neutral, actually 

By Steve Wedge
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 13:48 GMT
Coat

Overhead US wiring consists of two "hot" leads and a neutral. The hot leads are opposite ends of the 240V winding of aforementioned "Pole Pig" transformer, with a centre tap going to neutral. Thus, if Fluffy was sitting on the bare neutral and chewed into one of the hot leads, he's have 120V with essentially unlimited current. This is enough to fry him (I've seen charred mice in open 120V electrical boxes), though to set alight would take some doing!

The higher voltage on typical US overhead lines is 2400V, but these wires are typically separated by at least 2 - 3 feet, above the lower-voltage lines. CATV and phone run separately, below the 240V lines. Thus the whole arrangement has the highest voltages at the top, progressing to low voltage and comms at the bottom.

How he opened the bonnet after being electrocuted (forget the minor inconvenience of not having an opposable thumb) I will never know...

Alien Grey 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 15:28 GMT
Alien

Not a red, so that's all right. One less shape-shifter for pitchfurking.

Revenge of the Roadkill 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 17:00 GMT
Black Helicopters

You're right - there's no way a squirrel could accidentally get to the engine and cause an explosion. It's got to be a guerilla attack by the Roadkill Resistance Army!

Mythbusters 

By Bounty
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 18:03 GMT
Pirate

I belive this is a job for the Mythbusters.

exploding fauna 

By Michael Fletcher
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 18:49 GMT

Once, a pelican exploded outside my place of employment, blacking out the power to our building, and setting fire to some scrubland near a drainage pond.

From what we could tell, the unsuspecting avian had landed on a power line, had himself a big stretch, and touched two cables with his wings. The resulting short flashed his fluids to steam, blew his guts open and sprayed roasted pelican intestines for metres around, while he fell, burning, to end up draped over a low fence among tall grass below the power line.

Interesting morning, that was.

His pelican girlfriend was still over in the pond, alone and sad. Those birds mate for life, I'm told.

Guerilla attack 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 19:24 GMT
Coat

I, for one, welcome our new sciurine overlords.

Squirrels hate us 

By Jon Tocker
Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 20:30 GMT

They have it in for humankind - as recorded by Daniel Meyer:

http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/10/29/neighborhoodHazardorWhyTheCopsWontPatrolBriceStreet.html

Ninja squirrels and kamikaze squirrels - animal behaviour specialists have no idea why they have this fascination with Japanese fighting techniques, but the pattern is obvious and disturbing...

Re: Squirrels hate us 

By John Folken Wolf
Posted Thursday 25th October 2007 03:04 GMT
Pirate

A quick look at the "Related Items" section there confirms that:

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=65079&in_page_id=2

They ARE indeed testing new ways of suppressing us all, backed by their Masters (same guys running the whole ROTM gang)...

@Anonymous 

By Dalen
Posted Thursday 25th October 2007 06:15 GMT
Coat

Damn, you beat me to it.

P.S. Joe, if that was you, you're so getting locked in the server room for stealing my phrase. Besides, it was "_suicide-bombing_ sciurine overlords".

Walnuts and acorns 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Thursday 25th October 2007 15:11 GMT
Flame

The squirrels on the campus where I went to Uni would pelt students on the walkways with nuts from the safety of the branches. The squirrels on campus are so famous that one of the dorm buildings has a Squirrelfest celebration annually and uses pictures of squirrels on hats and tee-shirts as mascots.

it happens 

By Alan Donaly
Posted Friday 26th October 2007 12:22 GMT
Happy

A friend of mine was sitting looking out his apartment window about eye level with a transformer on a pole when the squirrel bit and was turned to a fire ball then the power went out he was kind of shocked by it but the kids thought it was cool he didn't say what happened next I take it their wasn't too much left to burn.The squirrels motto "live fast die young and leave a flat patch of fur on the highway" probably ought to include self incineration some way.

Why the doubts? 

By Kwac
Posted Saturday 27th October 2007 16:13 GMT
Flame

Haven't the doubters noticed that engine compartments have a bottom, as well as top (held down by clip) and paneled sides?

Flames and fuel lines tend not to mix to well.

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