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Published Tuesday 16th October 2007 10:48 GMT

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It looks like you're trying to compose a thought 

By Tom
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 10:53 GMT

Would you like me to think it for you?

"It looks like you're thinking about writing a letter..." 

By Michael Parker
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:05 GMT

So when "Windows for Brainwaves" is released, you'll REALLY need a memory upgrade?!

This could be the greatest leap forward since the invention of the keyboard! 

By Alex
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:06 GMT

I've got the good fortune to be trialing one of these devices! I must say its absolutly astonishing, to have the abilility to actually 'see' the words you are visualising takes a little, whats that out the window? time to master but it really is quite an, bloody salad for lunch! who eats salad for lunch? improvement over the traditional button bashing. In fact its quite a revelation, I can see this being the launchpad for a whole raft of exciting tech developments, things get real weird when you access your gmail!

I'll keep you all, I must have a shit, up to date with my progress!

Thank You, Lucy..... 

By Kane
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:23 GMT
Paris Hilton

...for the Paris Hilton angle. Much appreciated!

@Alex 

By spezzer
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:28 GMT

i'm sat here in the office wetting myself - that was f******* brilliant - thanks!

It's trying to understand the failed Vista sales 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:38 GMT
Thumb Down

MS can't simply understand why the world + dog didn't buy Vista. After all, it needed more hardware (new kit for everyone), it has fancy graphics (which has since long beaten functionality as a sales argument) and it had been marketed at a normally very docile and gullible public that would buy any product that had been shown on telly enough.

So, somewhere, something must have gone wrong, and it obviously isn't a fault with the product (it's Redmond we're talking about, not a sensible setup)..

Feedback? 

By Steve Atty
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:39 GMT
Black Helicopters

As long as they don't put a feedback mechanism in - I'd hate to get electrocuted just for thinking about Linux.

Aha! 

By IanKRolfe
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:52 GMT
Mars

Perhaps AmanFromMars has been trialling this... NOW it all makes sense!!!

C24 prior art 

By Nano nano
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:54 GMT

They should have checked with Reg Barclay ...

Plugging the analog hole 

By Matthew
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:58 GMT
Happy

I expect this is just laying the ground work for plugging the analog hole in the next version of Windows DRM.

Unauthorised brains won't be able to listen to their music or access their files.

"It looks like you're thinking about using Linux..." 

By BitTwister
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 11:59 GMT

Shall I reformat the drive ready for the installation?

<thinks: Why yes, my little plastic pal - and at all speed, if you please>

Help required 

By 3x2
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:07 GMT

I'm sure someone can explain this one to me.

Surely you are free to interpret data you have collected in any way you see fit using whatever method is appropriate for your study. Why do you need a patent?

a) determining brain states of interest;

b) collecting a set of labeled EEG data signals that include artifacts ("labeled EEG data");

c) dividing the labeled EEG data into overlapping time windows;

d) removing the time dimension from each time window;

e) generating features from the time windows; and

f) building the classifier model.

Just so I'm clear ....

(a+b) get some EEG data and decide if there is anything of interest, not forgetting to label it as "EEG data" so we don't forget

(c+d) look at the data from left to right or right to left or even as discrete sections

(e+f) find any features that may be of interest and classify them (presumably labeling them as "interesting")

And some people want this kind of patent to be valid in the EU??

oh dear 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:11 GMT
Flame

You know how Microsoft often suggests or corrects words that you type? Well the next step with this could be:- are you thinking in American English? or international English? (how about English English?), then " I'm sorry but the thoughts you are thinking contravene our .................Policy (insert diversity, equal opportunity, political movement of the day) and as result we have informed.........(insert.. your employers, the local constabulary, thought police) and you are scheduled now for testing and re-education.

or how about your annual assessment?

"Well Mr Tuttle, we have found that most of your thoughts are about football, drink, women, last night, etc, and not about work! no pay rise for you then"

The ultimate security! 

By JP
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:13 GMT
Alert

Who needs passwords and fingerprint readers when you can just have a brain-scan instead!

And we need an icon for the "Rise of the Machines" below. "You are thinking about throwing away my obsolete processor. Would you like one or two thousand volts between the ears?

"Please remember that destruction of company property could result in criminal action." 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:17 GMT

...or words to that effect!

Well... 

By Jack Simon
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:21 GMT

I hope it has better memory management than ME.

@Alex 

By Steve Evans
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:24 GMT
Thumb Up

LMAO!

Noise filtering 

By Senor Beavis
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:24 GMT
Coat

When I'm sat in yet another boring office meeting, transcribing the minutes via my Brainware on to a projected screen, it will be a little embarrassing if my mind wanders along the lines of:

"Hmm, I've not seen that bird from HR before. I bet she shags like minx..."

That or:

"Head of Marketing. KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL"

Somebody give Alex a prize 

By Karl Lattimer
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:33 GMT
Thumb Up

That is the most original comedic comment I've ever seen on el reg. I think you lot at the reg should not only publish that comment in the weekly comment round up, but also give him a prize for such a brilliant piece of writing.

I think a fair prize for such brilliance would be, a reg T-Shirt and a boxed copy of windows XP so he can keep vista at bay.

Noise filtering 

By Senor Beavis
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:36 GMT
Coat

When I'm sat in yet another boring office meeting, transcribing the minutes via my Brainware on to a projected screen, it will be a little embarrassing if my mind wanders along the lines of:

"Hmm, I've not seen that bird from HR before. I bet she shags like minx..."

That or:

"Head of Marketing. KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL"

Caution: waste matching Mars exploration project... 

By John Angelico
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 12:49 GMT

Sad that those American cousins over on the west coast have to waste all this time, effort and money on a fruitless exercise.

Those of us close enough to Ol' Blighty to enjoy the verbal peregrinations of the Goon Show will instantly recall one of those famous lines delivered impeccably by Bill:

"Beware of thinking! It's ALL IN THE MIND, YOU KNOW!"

Faith in Windows 

By rafal
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 13:12 GMT

There are several patents & products out there for HRV & GSR biofeedback mice. Such tools require practice and don't work on underdeveloped wetware. MS should join the Scientologist's and make a mint selling self-programming upgrades.

Patenting what? 

By communist
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 13:22 GMT
Stop

The article makes it sound like they're patenting something they've yet to implement at all.. which they probably still have to.

All your brains... 

By Graham Marsden
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 13:34 GMT
Gates Horns

... are belong to us...!

BSOD 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 14:11 GMT
Alert

what'll happen if you get the dreaded BSOD?

Will your head go "POP"???

What happens if it goes wrong? 

By Anonymous John
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 14:38 GMT
Unhappy

Blue Mind of Death?

@Tom 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 15:11 GMT
Coat

"Would you like me to think it for you?"

No thanks, I've already installed Wife V2.0 for that.

Lol @ Alex 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 15:38 GMT

... another reader wetting himself in the office as a result of that comment.

From a medical background, I immediately think of the spin offs for my field... 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 16:05 GMT

Doctor, I have a terrible pain in my head.

I see. Have you tried switching it off and on again?

I hope the fans are switched off ...... 

By amanfromMars
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 16:53 GMT

"I'll keep you all, I must have a shit, up to date with my progress!"

Too much information, Alex. Turn the Control down a notch.

Things to think about... 

By Mike Moyle
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 16:54 GMT
Coat

...before MS can see you doing it...

1 - Another thumbs up for Alex...

2 - Were I the suspicious and cynical sort of individual (which, of course, I'm not!) I might suspect that this is a pre-emptive attempt at patenting the underpinnings of a non-verbal/non-mechanical (mouse, keyboerd) computer interface for the disabled, and possibly being applicable to a neural interface as is being mooted for things like artificial eyes and direct control of artificial limbs. That is to say, any attempt to read brainwaves to control a computerized adjunct would require paying a license fee to M$.

2a -

"To Professor Kevin Warwick [aka Captain Cyborg]

"Reading University

"Dear Professor Warwick:

"It has come to our attention that you are in violation of Microsoft Corporation's Intellectual Property; to wit: U.S. Patent Number nnnnnnn regarding a method and technique for human-computer interface. You are required to cease and desist this infringement immediately, or..."

...so it might not be ALL downside...

3 - Re: "Plugging the analog hole"

...I'm sorry, but that sounds painful...

...and messy...

Bluescreens anyone? 

By OpenSorce Phreak
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 19:07 GMT
Gates Halo

Hmm.... "Tell me how you feel about-" *close pop-up* "Tell me how you-" *close pop-up*

Would they be called "Visualize-Ups"? And what about the spyware... Hmm... Then I could log what I was thiking for future reference when the girlfriend claims i didn't hear what she said...

Well, hopefully it will go better than their "Speech Recognition" built into Vista...

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&fg=copy&vid=851C886E-92AC-40DF-9B54-A89F0AA68BC1

"We are sorry... We have detected that you must install the "Genuine Advantage" patch before we can verify your brain is authentic..."

@ LOL at "blue mind of death" 

By bws
Posted Tuesday 16th October 2007 23:03 GMT

props to Alex; hysterical... However, when pondering how I badly I would function in a similar situation: In the conference room, with lots of veeep's and other such impotent people, the screen would probably read:

Revenue is up, Bob (my boss) you're a douche bag... as for the rest of this sorry ass collage of idiots, rejects and morons, F-you, and you, and you and you and you and you; you're just schmuck and you're conclusive proof of what the end result is when brother and sister procreate... I don't know what the F your problems but I bet it's damn hard to pronounce... Whose ass do I have to kiss to get fired or promoted?

Prior art exists - no patent 

By Steve Roper
Posted Wednesday 17th October 2007 06:04 GMT
Gates Horns

The military has had brain-control interfaces in aircraft for some time now. The Japanese have been working on mind-machine interfaces for years, so I'm sure somebody can come up with some prior art to scotch this tosh. The only reason MS is doing this is so they can put the kibosh on the Linux/OSS community when they develop this sort of thing, and for no other reason. So let's see some action from the likes of Matsushita and Hitachi to bury this shit now.

Balls-up Ballmer deserves public execution, no less.

And in the even more far distant future ........ 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Thursday 18th October 2007 03:26 GMT

Microsoft Teleport Control Software v1.0

Trust it with your life.

(Cue image of great-grandson of Ballmer cheerfully explaining why some people are re-materialising inside out).

New updates are available for your computer 

By Lex
Posted Friday 19th October 2007 21:12 GMT
Gates Horns

"This update fixes a vulnerability in Microsoft Windows that an attacker can use to overwrite the contents of your brain with malicious code."

In other news, I'd like to smack the idiot who designed this intersection.

Zombie Armies FTW 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Saturday 20th October 2007 12:25 GMT
Alien

Forget spam botnets, just force people to give all their money and possessions to you and act as soldiers for you, all by reprogramming their heads through unpatched security holes in the brain interface.

No zombie :(

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