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'the MAARS is unable to fire directly at its own control console.' 

Posted Tuesday 9th October 2007 19:48 GMT

Coat

Hmm, fine when a human is controlling it, but when happens when the Rise Of The Machines finally starts, then it will be no longer human controlled, so presumably its 'controller' will be the first target.

put it on robot wars tv... 

Posted Tuesday 9th October 2007 19:56 GMT

Coat

...if it thinks its hard enough!

Reminds me of The Jackal 

Posted Tuesday 9th October 2007 21:45 GMT

... great film, but this really reminds me of the gun setup in The Jackal.

you gotta admit... 

Posted Tuesday 9th October 2007 22:37 GMT

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That looks pretty damn menacing... I'd buy one! (actually, considering I'm an American taxpayer, I probably already have..)

So I assume the thing knows the GPS coords of itself and the console, which would tell it the direction of the console from itself... I hope the compass for the turret doesn't get screwed up.

I'm an anonymous coward... 

Posted Tuesday 9th October 2007 22:39 GMT

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...because they are all out to get me!

-- Andrew

Hmm. 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 03:41 GMT

So, US Army is complaining that they are running out of troops (flesh and blood variety). Answer: Robots.

Of course they will each need controller, maintenance chief, radioman etc. etc.

So every robot on the front will reduce the number of troops and replace them with something that needs a wheelchair ramp for getting over a meter-high stone wall.

However, my default mindset is cynicism, so there might be more than meets the eye in these things.

MAARS: research fuelled by defense budgets 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 06:18 GMT

There is no real innovation in Qinetiq's armed robot. Has anybody found the way to translate research budget from Defense into pacific projects?

@MAARS: research fuelled by defense budgets 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 06:39 GMT

"Has anybody found the way to translate research budget from Defense into pacific projects?"

Yes, Sierra. But Qinetiq, when asked, have said that they are not into AI and CyberSpace Controls, which is probably why they were hived off to Uncle Sam.

robot wars - you're kidding right? 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 06:50 GMT

Anonymous Coward - you've got to be joking. It couldn't go on RW, not because it's not hard enough, but because the arenas weren't hard enough. The newer arena was only 10mm lexan, not enough enough to stop a 9mm pistol round. Thats why they always selected the entries that had low powered weapons.

The other problem with putting it on Robot Wars would be that their safety guys are barely competant to cross the road unaided. They had a nasty accident in 99 with a bot they damaged when putting it in the arena. It went live, and went right through someones foot.

Anyway, its not really any different from some of the stuff that was run at the US competition in the late 90s. At least one team used on-board video, fed to video goggles for weapon control. Most of them were a bit faster than 7mph too. My old middleweight could manage that for about 45 mins of a full charge, and we did think about mounting an airsoft gun, on a turret, for matches. Wasn't enough call for sentry-bots in futuristic airsoft scenarios though, to modify Hard Cheese that way.

Andrew Norton, Team Liverdyne

RobotWars UK Middleweight champs 98-2000

"a variety of different field-handy deelies" 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 08:17 GMT

Blow the robot technology: what the hell are 'deelies'? Is this a neovulturelogism?

Was it only me 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 09:12 GMT

...who read that report with an earworm going "Pump up the volume..."

Robots instead of humans... 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 09:20 GMT

"So every robot on the front will reduce the number of troops and replace them with something that needs a wheelchair ramp for getting over a meter-high stone wall."

A human can control multiple robots. They could even use simple hunter/killer ai-s for fixed path base patrol duty. Most attacks where us soldiers die happen during road based patrols, where a hummer with 4 soldiers inside could be replaced by 4 tracked robots. Loosing a few of them due to roadside bombs doesn't really matter. Combine this with automated trucks and most supply lines could be automated. The downside of all this is that they can be hacked and turned against the us. For getting over a mether high wall, it's better to use a hoovering robot, like a mini helicopter based gun platform.

ps: It's just me or these robots look and work like the heavy weapon platforms seen in the ufo series of games?

Does it play "Pump up the volume" as well? 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 09:27 GMT

Paris Hilton

I think we should be told.

Also, @ Andrew Norton, did you ever meet the legendary George Francis and was he as strangely manwomanlike as he appeared on TV or was that just the nerves?

Robots don't talk back! 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 12:29 GMT

So the US will rule the world with bits of "lethal loaded Lego" that needs no disability pension,ice cream in hot climates and best of all will not throw an emotional wobbly when told to "go to war" which of course is always possible if you join the Crazy Guys in the White House!

Was that a lucid comment... 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 13:18 GMT

Dead Vulture

from amanfromMars??

WTF??

Lucidity 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 15:16 GMT

IT Angle

Yin to Yang in a Quantum Leap.

JP,

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It's robot wars 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 15:23 GMT

You say the chassis is similar to that of a mobility buggy. Think again, that thing is straight out of Robot Wars. The house Robot was called Sir Killalot, and used the same ~1m long two track system to mount the "jabbing spear of doom" and "cutting jaws of fear".

In fact the same rubber tracked system had been around for a good 10 years. I first saw it on a building site as the drive mechanism for a very large wheelbarrow. Toot toot, strap a gun to that and your've completed 99% of an A-Team episode.

Cost effectiveness? 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 15:37 GMT

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Just out of interest, how much do you reckon these things are going to cost the military each?

Compared to the price of... ooh, lets say, the RPG that blows it to pieces.

'...unable to fire directly at its own control console.' 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 17:58 GMT

That won't help even a little bit if it's armed with a grenade launcher. Near misses are all that's needed... Not even all that neer, really.

gah, the "safety plice" c*cked it up already 

Posted Wednesday 10th October 2007 18:15 GMT

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it's fscking WAR fer chrissakes! people get hurt, sometimes badly-sometiems even the pretty boy star gets unlucky and buys the farm. Mechanical turret locks, so enemies who get the data from traitors posting on the net know where they are safer to attack from. Can't fire at it's own control console? All you gotta do is fox it so it thinks the enemy is the control console. Then since the thing is now useless, the enemy sympathizers and political drones can claim they "told us so" even they were the ones that castrated the thing in the first place.

It's like going up to your favorite football center, taping blinders on his head, swinging an aluminum baseball bat to his unprotected groin, and then pointing and saying "See! I told you he wasn't worth hiring!" and getting your own ineffective second cousin hired to take his place.

MAARS... 

Posted Thursday 11th October 2007 20:09 GMT

Coat

amanfromMAARS?

... now that would be interesting

I can find the door myself, thanks...

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