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1 WII, £179.00

4 real games 4 x £30.00

4 controlers 4 x £30.00

4 nunchucks 4 x £15.00

1 Relatively easy installed Mod chip £24

38 Downloaded/copied games and counting - Priceless

Loving the Wii games, so many different unique types of games...

may even buy some more real games..

An easily chipped console may not be the main feature for most buyers but for a geek of my generation it sure is nice and I will buy every piece of hardware available.

Re: Windows XP(?) Console Slowly Dies

Simon,

'Gameplay on the Xbox 360 is very dire, lots of PC/PS3 Ports.'

Nothing wrong with porting PC games. Also it's actually the other way around, the PS3 features lots of Xbox 360 ports. Companies invest a lot of money into games so they support the most number of platforms that they can - it's basic business sense.

'But why isnt Xbox Live Free, '

Because it's superior in every way to any similar offering elsewhere. Also remember you only have to pay for it if you want to PLAY online - everything else (downloading demos, messaging/talking to friends, achievements, global leaderboards etc.) is free.

'Halo is excellent, but it isnt WII Sports, It isnt Shadow of Colussus or Daxter on the PSP. '

Apples and oranges...

'Microsoft Hardware is poor, I bought mine and got the three reds lights or it locked. Xbox consoles are the only consoles I know that lock when you are playing.'

MS have had problems with the hardware - but they've now sorted most of this out and will repair you console free of charge if you have the 'three red lights' issue. This is more than any company has done in the past (see Sony and the PS2 disc reading problem)

'I played Halo 1 and thought this is excellent this is reason to get this console, I got a WII , WOW , Unbelieveable, easy but next gen without the next gen fuss. played motorstorm on PS3 and Heavenly Sword (yes its not released), that is what console gaming is about, gameplay and if you are luckly great graphics added to it. '

So you played a last gen game on a current gen console and are now comparing this experience with the Wii and PS3's finest? Not a fair comparison would you say?

'Microsoft is a one game show boat, look at Crackdown sales only driven by the halo 3 beta, a Beta for a Console Game, nuts and lazy programming. Microsoft hurry up and leave, you are boring the industry...'

Crackdown is an excellent game in it's own right - I take it you've played it? Also I assume by 'one game show boat' you are referring to Halo 3. While this is a massive release on the Xbox platform it is a long way from being the only thing on offer. I'm not going to write a list but if you look at the games already available on the 360 and look into the not too distant future you'll see some amazing games which don't all have the name Halo (Bioshock is one example of a game which is currently shaping up to be a classic).

PS3 and 360 are all about software

To Mark,

" 'At the moment Sony and to a lesser extent Microsoft have games coming out soon that will be console sellers'

I think you mean this the other way around i.e. Microsoft have most of the system sellers on the horizon, most of the Sony system sellers are due next year.

As for the Wii. Hardware sales are great but what about the software sales? Do people buy the Wii and then just play Wii Sports? I suspect this is what a lot of people do, whereas the 360 and PS3 I'm sure have a higher attach rate."

I do mean Sony and to a lesser extent Microsoft because some of the system sellers have been released on the 360 whereas the PS3 is still waiting.

I agree that 360 and PS3 are more dependent on software sales since the respective companies loose money on hardware sales and therefore market share is much more crucial to them. The Wii is not really a hardware competitor for Sony or Microsoft but a software competitor. If each Wii owner just played Wii Sport I think S&M would be happy with the numbers. However software publishers are now more likely to spend time on Wii products than PS3 or 360 simply because of the market share.

Maybe S&M should look at Apples strategy and allow free downloads of GT and halo3. Like the Pepsi offer of free songs needing an iTunes/iPod they should give away some free software so that people need hardware to play it on. Increase the market share attract more software and then sell more games.

Cheers

Valan

More than one per customer

You need to buy more than one 360 as they keep going wrong. While the warranty has been extended, I bet there's a few people who missed that offer and have bught another.

The 360 has been out the longest. It's very easy to look at the US market and deem the 360 a success, look at Japan though, not even sold a million yet.

I don't get it??

What is so special about the WII? I think this console will hit the saturation point very soon. Once people realize hey I can get these games online and cheep with Xbox 360 its over. Then they can buy a real game with the Xbox 360 or PS3 and hook it up to a HDTV and have full 5.1 sound.

I think the public just has not moved as fast as technology has and once people get over this WII phase they will realize they were duped by the market and WII is just last generations leftovers. The WII is not even close to next generation and should never even be considered next generation when it’s such a bad technological piece. I mean really wow they made a controller that senses when you move it... Big deal Microsoft put out a controller that did the same thing years ago. The only difference is that they didn't make a ton of cheesy games to go along with the controller. I think the person that stated it would saturate like the game cube is 100% correct. So to everyone else I have a real console and play real games with my son... He knows the difference already at 5 and I won't buy junk like the WII.

To the media which feeds off the negativity of the Microsoft quality I would stand behind the Xbox 100%. I know there have been a lot of console issues with red lights but Microsoft is the only company I know backing up there product with a 3 year warrantee. Let’s see WII or PS3 do the same thing since they are such superior products.