By Pascal MonettPosted Thursday 9th August 2007 13:05 GMT
The EULA is supposed to be a "contract" between the maker of the software and the buyer.
If that is true, then the EULA is the only contract mechanism in the world that does not obey the simple principle of commercial law that the rest of the world abides by, namely that no contract clause can be changed with explicit consent from both parties.
As such, it is indeed a shame that the only software maker to actually write an EULA like it should be is one that actually follows through on it with great diligence.
By Craig PoxonPosted Thursday 9th August 2007 13:58 GMT
In this story you blur the image, yet reproduce the word in text, and in the story about Pipex's rude automatic password suggestion you star out the letters in the offending word and blur the image!
It just seems to be a summary of the Windows EULA.
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Aaaaactually, there's a slight difference.
Windows' EULA says "FuckED you".
IE: Before you even started reading or agreeing the EULA, you were done for.
Because, once you've got your hands on the stupid software (ie bundled with your PC (quite frequent eh?)), GOOD LUCK getting the "if you don't agree, ship this back for a refund" clause to work...
By PseudopathPosted Thursday 9th August 2007 16:36 GMT
In the Pipex story, the offending word was censored in the headline of the story as El Reg would have no doubt received a lot of complaints about the c-word being displayed proudly on the main page. The image accompanying the story was obviously sent in by the reader and displayed uncensored.
In this story, the image was taken from the Stop Badware website where it was already censored. I don't blame the writer for not wanting to download and install the codec in question just to get an uncensored picture!
By Merton Campbell CrockettPosted Thursday 9th August 2007 16:42 GMT
Were Microsoft's lawyers paid a fixed fee, they would have most likely produced a similar EULA but being paid on a commission basis it is, clearly, in their best interest to use many words as possible to say the same thing.
By Jon TockerPosted Thursday 9th August 2007 23:07 GMT
I'd want some form of written guarantee that the other party is an attractive and clean female of consentual age and not some over-weight male teenager with pimples, halitosis and a sweat problem.
By mechBgonPosted Friday 10th August 2007 02:14 GMT
The EULA shown here is not the one that an end user would see if he were suckered into installing running the hotelcodec Trojan from an actual affiliate site. It's just the EULA you see if for some reason you go straight to hotelcodec.com and download the dummy file like a newbie. ;)
The "real" hotelcodec.com Trojans are DNSChanger. Zlob is not "aka DNSChanger"; they are different families, although the tactic used to get users to run them is the same.
As for hotelcodec.com being blacklisted, it is already more than halfway through its lifecycle (the Zlob and DNSChanger gangs typically rotate the hosting domains out after just a few days), and SiteAdvisor's glacial 2-4 week reaction time is far too slow to be much use against current "live" Zlob and DNSChanger domains. Too little, too late. I specialize in doing SiteAdvisor reviews on Zlob and DNSChanger, so this is a bit frustrating ;)
The best blanket defense against these Trojans, aside from user education, is the one that's free, doesn't need definiton updates, and is already sitting there waiting to be put into effect: non-Administrator user accounts. http://www.mechbgon.com/security2.html
By Doc DishPosted Friday 10th August 2007 10:01 GMT
I would SO love to have non-Administrator user accounts, but unfortunately developers still exist that think "All my user-base are belong to Administrators" (sorry) - especially in the niche market of Healthcare.
I find myself asking every day "why does your crappy little database NEED the user to have God-like power over their desktop?" It's very disillusioning...
By mechBgonPosted Friday 10th August 2007 17:25 GMT
You have my sympathies. I relish the thought of those developers finally being forced to face reality someday (or fired). If you haven't already done so, you might see if Software Restriction Policy has something to offer you on WinXP and Vista clients:
Comments on: Malware license agreement tells it straight
Censored? #
By t3h Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 11:06 GMT
If I click "I Agree" and install this.. #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 11:16 GMT
A little truth? #
By Daniel Snowden Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 12:06 GMT
Lovely #
By Kim Hancock Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 12:06 GMT
Seen it before #
By Mike Iwan Phillips Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 12:21 GMT
Ah but #
By Rich Kavanagh Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 12:27 GMT
Seen it before #
By Mike Iwan Phillips Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 12:33 GMT
2 words... #
By Craig Roberts Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 12:37 GMT
It's a shame, really #
By Pascal Monett Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 13:05 GMT
I wish you'd get your standard straight #
By Craig Poxon Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 13:58 GMT
Windows EULA - NOT #
By Dam Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 15:44 GMT
Makes editorial sense to me #
By Pseudopath Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 16:36 GMT
Fixed fee versus Commission #
By Merton Campbell Crockett Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 16:42 GMT
Click Next to continue... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 17:43 GMT
Before clicking "I Agree"... #
By Jon Tocker Posted Thursday 9th August 2007 23:07 GMT
Zlob is not DNSChanger, and furthermore... #
By mechBgon Posted Friday 10th August 2007 02:14 GMT
@mechBgon #
By Doc Dish Posted Friday 10th August 2007 10:01 GMT
@Doc Dish #
By mechBgon Posted Friday 10th August 2007 17:25 GMT