how does it move the mobile phone onwards again?

I have a pretty bog standard nokia. It has a music player. It has a camera. I can smurf the internet. I can make phone calls. I can check my gmail.

The iphone may be able to do some of these things better, but there is nothing new apart from a snazzy touch screen interface.

If I'd wanted a touch screen interface, I'd have bought a pocket pc or similar. I want a phone I can make a call with one handed with no problems.

With this phone, could I chuck it in my bag and not worry? Stuff it in my back pocket and forget it? I tried those things with my ipod and now I'm stuck with an ipod whose wheel works about 1% of the time. I did all that with my phone and it is as good as new.

(I actually like convergence - I use my phone camera quite a lot, and if the picture was better I'd be happy - I'd use my phone as an mp3 player if only the pop-port headphone connector worked better - I use it more than I ever imagined as an mp3 player through the speakers - and I do use it as a video player quite a bit.

I want is a nokia 6233 that takes an 8gig SDHC card, has a 3.2 megapixel camera with flash, and a better headphone connection [possibly a better music player interface], runs the new opera mini and looks like the new 6500 classic - that's a better phone than the iPhone right there!)

Re: William

Your assertion that those 100,000 people would pick a different phone assumes those people know that they will want to replace the battery at the point when they purchase the phone.

A more interesting statistic to know would be what percentage of people whose phone battery fails go on to replace the battery (rather than buying a new phone). I suspect that this number would be a lot higher than 1%.

I haven't replaced the battery in my current phone yet since it works fine, but would do so if it fails/degrades. Does that put me in the "99% who never replace the battery" or the 1% who do?

It's gonna die ! ! !

The iPhone can't ...

Communicate with extra terrestrials (yet)

Make one more attractive to the opposite/same/trans sex

Increase the length of any appendages you may value

Invade Poland

Make phone calls under water without protection

Introduce a force field around the owner

Protect the owner from biting insects ...

So, having got rid of those misapprehensions, can we just acknowledge that it is an object which, hype aside, moves on the mobile phone quite dramatically. We'll soon see that, despite the naysayers, other manufacturers will attempt to copy and may even surpass the iPhone's capabilities.

For me, a mere aspirant to ownership, it was summed up by a reporter who said something like, "Well, this XXX phone has a similar feature where you swipe across the screen ... only it doesn't work!"

The iPhone does!

Playing with the numbers

>>Apple has analysed how people ACTUALLY use their phones and come up with the shock finding that 99% of them never replace the battery

>Apple stated that they expected as much as 10 million people to buy they IPhone so thats 1% => 100 000 people who will pay 500+$ for a phone with a bad battery they can't replace?

Why would those 100 000 people actually buy the iPhone in the first place if they are in that 1% who do replace cell phone batteries?

@Jim

>Also, why would the fact that the 1st gen iPod had a dud battery be of any significance? Particularly when they have produced a further 4 generations without the same problem...

Well i bought a 2nd generation mini-Ipod a year and half ago and it also had a bad battery(and there are other people I know who had battery trouble with that particular generation). After about 3 months with me it became almost unusable(it would die after about 30min of playback).

Right now, I still have that Ipod but I only use it in the car with a power adapter(it can hold way more music than a CD and my player has an auxiliary input) so it is still useful in a way but it is definitly not flexible in how I can use it. If the battery had been replaceable(even though I had a guarentee they refused to replace it for me) I would still be able to use my Ipod normally. Although this was quite annoying it would be way worse to buy an IPhone only to find that the battery has died on you after 3 months of usage.

>Apple has analysed how people ACTUALLY use their phones and come up with the shock finding that 99% of them never replace the battery

Apple stated that they expected as much as 10 million people to buy they IPhone so thats 1% => 100 000 people who will pay 500+$ for a phone with a bad battery they can't replace?