Well, you pays your money and you takes your choice. The LA Times says there is no "ideological conformity" among the "elite" group of trusted contributors which Schlafly promotes to editorial status. One example is Terry Koeckritz, who "doesn't take the creation account in the Book of Genesis literally", and says of Conservapedia: "It is what it is. A family-friendly, Christian-friendly encyclopedia."
Conservapedia hasn't, though, been quite as friendly to dissenting voices. The LA Times explains: "Dr Peter A Lipson, an internist in Southfield, Mich., repeatedly tried to amend an article on breast cancer to tone down Conservapedia's claim that abortion raises a woman's risk. The site's administrators, including Schlafly, questioned his credentials and shut off debate."
Lipson duly enlisted other disgruntled editors and started RationalWiki, whose aims include: Refuting and analysing the anti-science movement, ideas and people; Refuting and analysing the full range of crank ideas; Writings on political authoritarianism and religious fundamentalism.
The site doesn't mess around, either. Its entry entitled "Conservapedia:Delusions", promptly mocks the claims that "Homosexuality is a mental disorder", "Atheists are sociopaths", and "During the 6 days of creation G-d placed the Earth inside a black hole to slow down time so the light from distant stars had time to reach us".
Unfortunately, RationalWiki admits it, and others, have engaged in "cyber-vandalism" against Conservapedia during which they've "inserted errors, pornographic photos, and satire". The entry for Atty Gen Alberto R Gonzales was apparently amended to read: "Mr Gonzales is a strong supporter of torture as a law enforcement tool for use against Democrats and third world inhabitants."
This, in turn has led to the accusation from Conservapedians that "left-wingers are out to suppress their free speech". One anonymous 15-year-old in New Jersey, who penned an entry on Irish dancing and "uses the site to research papers", said: "I had heard it spoken of, but it had never really hit home before just how hostile they are. There are people who want to destroy us." ®
We at El Reg are looking forward to the final, Ragnarök-style confrontation between Conservapedia, RationalWiki and Wikipedia. The outcome of this titanic battle will be decided by either natural selection or according to God's will, depending on which one of them is really telling the truth.
This will fail because "Reality has a well-known liberal bias".
how does that work??....
'an objective, bias-free piece from a conservative perspective'
surely that's an oxymoron????
still if they do believe all that creationist BS, doubt they could find the entry in a dictionary to look up oxymoron, (although they could probably tell me which pages of the bible the word doesnt appear on, chapter and verse and all)
re: Anything can be edited by Anyone
I just created an account on Conservapedia, initially to see how the editing works. Naively, I decided to create a page about Andy Schlafly. All I put in it to start was :
Andy Schlafly is the "editor" of "Conservapedia".
which was duly saved. I then selected to edit the page (e.g. change "editor" to "creator") and expand it.
Within a few minutes, the following message popped up on screen :
"User is blocked
Your user name or IP address has been blocked.
The block was made by Dpbsmith. The reason given is Strange edit: created article for Andy [sic] Schlafly, calls him "editor" of CP (within quotations).
You can contact Dpbsmith or another administrator to discuss the block. You cannot use the 'email this user' feature unless a valid email address is specified in your account preferences. Your current IP address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, and the block ID is #xxxxx. Please include either or both of these in any queries."
So, I created an article, and was blocked from it, because I put quotation marks around "editor" !
(Now this article seems to have disappeared).
Then I saw I had a message, which read :
"Hi. I've blocked you for two hours because I'm puzzled by your recent creation of the article Andy Schlafly, and I'd like to be sure of your intentions. Your article looks a little bit like a joke, or like carelessness. We already have an article on Andrew Schlafly, and you really should have checked that before creating another one. I don't understand why you called him the editor, which is not the way he refers to his role here (Conservapedia has many editors) or why you put the word editor within quotation marks.
We're always interested in serious content. Were you planning to add more to the article?
What sorts of things are you interested in doing at Conservapedia?
Dpbsmith 09:30, 21 June 2007 (EDT)"
Well, I couldn't tell then what I was "interested in doing at Conservapedia", 'cos they'd never let back me on their site if they knew !
And, I Had searched for "Andy Schlafly" (which gave no results), first. (Maybe I'd spelt it rong !)
So, I went to the page for the user "Dpbsmith"
From here, I tried clicking on "Email this user" and got
"You must be logged in and have a valid e-mail address in your preferences to send e-mail to other users."
Since I WAS logged in WITH a valid email address, this was rubbish.
I searched for "Evolution", and surprise, I was redirected to the "Theory of Evolution".
(NOTE that this page is locked and cannot be edited to correct it)
The first sentence of this page says :
"The theory of evolution is a naturalistic explanation of the history of life on earth"
If you click on the word "naturalistic" you go to the page for "Naturalism".
The description for "Naturalism" ends thus :
"John Morris, PhD., wrote:
Naturalism (i.e., naturalistic evolution) is often desirable, for it seemingly
frees us from the authority of a Creator God. Without a God to whom we are accountable, we are free to live as we choose. College students, often surrounded by hedonism are particularly ripe for wrong thinking, and many never recover."
Would you believe it? Many college students "never recover" from wrong thinking !!!
And, presumably, WITH a god, we are NOT free to live as we choose.
Well, that's no god for me then, please.
Looking at the entry for "Bible"...
That, too is locked, but looking down the page, Genesis runs from 1440-1400 BC.
But, if you go to the entry for Stonehenge, it says "secular scientists" say t was started about 8000BC, but most of the present structure was added about 3000 BC.
So, God created the heavens and the earth about 1500 years after StoneHenge was finished !
Q/. Why do we bother with this crap ?
A/. Because unfortunately, there are LOADS of people who not only believe it, but will do anything possible to force their way of "thinking" (it's true, I read it in a book) on other people.
By the way : lookup "Thinking" on conservapedia, and the nearest entry is "Critical Thinking".
It's definition finishes :
"Critical thinking uses many aspects of formal logic and informal logic. It also focuses on discovering bias, propaganda , delusion and deception both in the sources of ones information and ones own views and approaches to reasoning problems out."
It's a pity the "authors" of Conservapedia don't apply some of this to their site !