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'It's only a matter of time'

Published Monday 11th June 2007 20:24 GMT

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Proof that lawmakers are idiots? 

By Morely Dotes
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 20:29 GMT

'"It's only a matter of time before someone uses the information Google Earth provides to do this country harm," Gianaris was quoted as saying in an article in the New York Post. He objects to the satellite images carried on Google Earth and Google Maps that gives detailed views of skyscrapers, airports and other potential terror targets.'

Well, let's see... Terrorists are allegedly funded by Iran. Iran is a nation, and has sufficient resources to build ballistic missiles and (allegedly) nuclear warheads.

You don't suppose that Iran could purchase a satellite downlink receiver, and gain direct access to the maps and photos that Gianaris wants to keep ordinary law-abiding citizens from seeing, do you?

This is why we send them to the seat of government - we don't want cretins like that in our own neighborhoods.

They already do, a bit 

By Adam Azarchs
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 20:57 GMT

If you look up the Hudson River to Indian Point nuclear power plant, you immediately see that they did, in fact, blur it a bit.

For the most part, Google Maps won't show you anything a high-quality paper map won't show you.

Or did he mean it'll help tourists? 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 21:01 GMT

So the intarwebs is used by tourists. And phones. And they eat. And use trains. Why not ban everything?

What is it that "our" politicians want; the entire population in chains? Have we really sleep walked into loosing all our liberties?

McCarthyism had nothing on what this lot seems to want!

Anything else terrorists might find handy? 

By Rob Findlay
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 21:03 GMT

And in other news, a lawmaker has expressed concern that cars might be useful to terrorists. "These new-fangled inventions could be a grave threat in the wrong hands" he said, pulling on his galoshes.

They're just upset. 

By charlie wallace
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 21:07 GMT

That instead of the offcials/politicians being bribed for the information on sensitive sites, the bad guys can get it free off the internets.

Google earth doesn't really provide the information, the mapping company does, its them they should talk too.

Here be dragons, for instance.

Oh the horror! 

By Chris
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 21:13 GMT

I propose that we compile a list of all materials and information which could be used to "do this country harm". Things like guns, missiles, explosives, fertilizer (can be used to make a "bomb"). I think 9/11 showed us that airplanes can be used to do this country harm, so we might as well outlaw airplanes as well. As for information sources, we have libraries and websites, books and magazines. Heck, the Internet itself is claimed to be used by people who want "to do this country harm", so let's outlaw the Internet, too.

Plenty of things *CAN* be used for bad purposes. But that doesn't mean we should outlaw them. Cars *CAN* be used to run people over; should we outlaw cars? Fingers *CAN* be used to poke people's eyes out; should we cut off everyone's fingers? I'll go out on a limb here and venture a guess that there is literally nothing in this world that cannot be used for bad purposes.

The terrorists have already won 

By Jamie A
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 21:25 GMT

Why do the terrorists need to blow anything else up? All they need to do is keep making vague threats, and people like this guy will keep over-reacting and thinking that their lives are in mortal peril.

The whole point of terrorism is to strike fear. That goal has been achieved, so it seems.

Cars aid terrorists, NY lawmaker warns 

By Vek
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 22:02 GMT

Ban cars!

Land of the free and all that 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Monday 11th June 2007 23:45 GMT

Maybe they should concentrate on banning the really dangerous things first? Like guns?

Off with there heads 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 00:14 GMT

I could father a child who could join a cult and become a terrorist, quick chop off my .........

Perhaps they should just ban books... 

By Matthew
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 01:14 GMT

that makes just as much sense :)

Im sure every terrorist who can use google earth could just as easily pick up a hard copy book with satalite images in it....

Or are terrorists too lazy to go to their local libray?

It's not the sawdust, it's the wheelbarrow... 

By Brett Brennan
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 03:49 GMT

My favorite quote of the week.

The politicos are like H/Bollywood stars: they need to keep being quoted in order to build up a chunk of "I was for/against..." sound bytes for campaign purposes.

It wouldn't matter at all what the subject was - as long as Assemblyman Mike Gianaris can be quoted on something that has the words "terrorism" and "security" in it, he'll be counted as being a "good guy" protecting his constituents.

So, once again, it's not the "sawdust" of the actual words, but the "wheelbarrow" of being in the media eye that matters...

Jamie A: 

By Silas Humphreys
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 06:19 GMT

I've been saying that all along. So have others: http://qntm.org/terrorism

Now can someone PLEASE give all these politicians implants of prosthetic Clue?

While your at it..... 

By Vernon Lloyd
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 07:07 GMT

I am sat at my desk, I have a phone, my mobile phone, computer, printer, fax machine, access to the internet and my cup of coffee.

Damn people looks like I cannot do any work today except drink coffee (soon to be outlawed know doubt due to carrying hot liquids) as everything else could be used for terrorist purposes.......

Why do we have such MUPPETS running the show.

The solution is simple 

By Sean
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 07:40 GMT

Ban lawmakers.

The Muppet Show 

By Ralph B
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 07:46 GMT

> Why do we have such MUPPETS running the show.

It could be worse. Look at Italy.

Lawmaker... 

By Laurent_Z
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 07:57 GMT

And what do Lawn Ackers know about terrorism ?

Ban the INTERNET! 

By Andy
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 08:41 GMT

....no, wait... {click}

Yawn 

By Colin Jackson
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 09:11 GMT

Straw man.

I wish I'd thought of that... 

By Jason Edmunds
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 09:31 GMT

Now the terrorists just have to target the blurred bits on Google and they're guaranteed to hit something worthwhile!

Genius.

Utter Genius.

All maps aid terrorists 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 09:36 GMT

Churchill's attack on Turkey went horribly wrong because the navy landed in the wrong place. One of the D day landings was in the wrong place. During WW2, Britain took down street signs,and collected picture postcards of the coast of France. GPS was a military technology. In most of the world, mapping was done for the military.

In the USA, more lives are lost in traffic accidents than were lost in 9/11. I hope they don't make the traffic worse by taking down street signs and banning maps again.

Warning: Do Not Upset The Terrorists 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 09:38 GMT

Well, well.. having Google ban images of potential targets only address the symptom. Not the root cause.

And seeing that the politicians wants us to bend over and take it up the back side by loosing cornerstones of our society like freedom of information.. Why not do it properly? Let's treat the root cause.

Let's all become Muslims. This political arsehole in New York first.

That would be a nice start! 

By Dave Coventry
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 09:44 GMT

"""What is it that "our" politicians want; the entire population in chains?"""

:)

Airplanes 

By Connor Garvey
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 11:41 GMT

It's only a matter of time before people use airplanes to do harm to this country. They must be grounded immediately.

Let's not forget trains, cars, cameras (surveillance), and guns. They also might steal weapons from the military, too, so let's blow those up as well.

Title 

By Jon Brindley
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 12:40 GMT

Surely MSN's Live Maps (or whatever it's actually called) aids terrorists far more as it has better satellite imagery than Google - at least it has for every place I've ever looked.

Err, so what is tall buildings are shown ... 

By SImon Hobson
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 13:17 GMT

... it's not as if they can't simply walk along the street and see one. Oh look, there's a tall building !

Email him 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 13:38 GMT

Email this guy and tell him censoring and restricting information to Americans will not be tolerated.

gianarm@assembly.state.ny.us

Oh the horror! 

By Alan White
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 15:14 GMT

"I'll go out on a limb here and venture a guess that there is literally nothing in this world that cannot be used for bad purposes."

Marshmallows?

Re: Oh the horror! 

By Chris Sharp
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 16:53 GMT

I burnt myself quite badly on a marshmallow once

Cut that lawn 

By Phil
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 17:16 GMT

How often do they take these pictures? Just I'm looking at my back garden in Google Earth and it still shows the lawn we had taken up 2 years ago. And I think I can see our old bath that was out in the garden for a while, but got taken away in a skip long before the lawn went. If terrorists are relying on this, they could make some serious mistakes.

OMG its MrStayPuffed!!!!! 

By Roland Korn
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 17:19 GMT

But I thought he was the least harmless thing in existence....

Not when he`s over 50 feet tall he`s not

Re: Marshmallows? 

By Chris
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 20:31 GMT

Nope. Marshmallows can be used to suffocate someone. Even the marshmallows aren't safe anymore.

Lazy Terrorists 

By Daniel Ballado-Torres
Posted Tuesday 12th June 2007 21:55 GMT

Stopping Google Maps/Earth would only stop lazy terrorists. They are well enough funded as to get better info than GE would get them.

And those things aren't updated that much: our double-decker freeway still shows as incomplete, even though it was finished 2 years ago. Hell, my apartment block isn't even there yet! Anyone searching my address would find some abandoned warehouse or something like that where my building is.

That's Mexico City, by the way.

Thanks 

By Hetore Del Faveri
Posted Wednesday 13th June 2007 05:30 GMT

Guys, next time I went out to find some reliable information on how to look for a site to blow it out, I'll surelly come to this page again.

The real threat 

By Phil
Posted Wednesday 13th June 2007 09:17 GMT

I think I've worked it out. Google Earth shows my back garden as it was about 4 years ago, so that means the camera must be something like 2 light years away (allowing another 2 years for the picture to get back to earth), not in close orbit as we thought. The pictures on Google Earth are obviously being provided by the Lizard Alliance, and they have some pretty hot long distance surveillance technology. Be even more afraid.

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