I just saw a mac ad saying how a PC comes pre-loaded with a bunch of crap and a mac comes pre-loaded with "awesome" mac based software.

Why ain't mac getting a run yet? Guess we gotta wait for them to be a bit more popular before the EU rips them apart?

How are we supposed to believe in an independent judicial systems if everyone disappears off into a private meeting and sorts things out behind closed doors.

How does one file a freedom of information request against this kind of thing?

Is Europe going to follow the US model after all and let Microsoft write their own punishment?

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I just saw a mac ad saying how a PC comes pre-loaded with a bunch of crap and a mac comes pre-loaded with "awesome" mac based software.

Why ain't mac getting a run yet? Guess we gotta wait for them to be a bit more popular before the EU rips them apart?

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Probably at the same time that Lenovo, Dell, etc are pursued for the software that they bundle on shipping systems.

If you don't see the difference between what Dell, Lenovo, and Apple do in shipping whatever software the computer manufacturer wants on the computers they manufacture, and what Microsoft does in forcing every computer manufacturer except for Apple to ship the exact software that Microsoft wants on the computers that they do not manufacture, then perhaps you need to read up a bit on antitrust law, bundling, and the actual legal issue at hand before you comment on it?

Just a thought.

-fred

>Why ain't mac getting a run yet? Guess we gotta wait for them to be a bit more >popular before the EU rips them apart?

Apple doesn't have 95% share of the desktop.

Microsoft pre-loads media software to try and kill the competition. They killed Netscape off by convincing the DOJ that the browser was part of the OS. They even make Windows Explorer reliant on IE to further reinforce this.

The whole "anti-trust"[1] proceedings, that is. The main result of which is compelling MS to produce versions of Vista without Media Player. Quite pointless, as most punters will buy complete versions, and anyone who cares enough to use another player will download one.

Netscape killed itself by taking far too long to produce a successor to the execrable NS4. IE4 was just about as bad, but later versions improved enough to be usable...

I'd like to know how much tax money has been spent on this nonsense.

[1] Odd USian expression which seems to have spread

The bundling thing was done and dusted years ago. This is a completely DIFFERENT case. Its about MS not wanting other companies to have access to their blessed communication protocols. Nothing to do with bundling media players. So if the court can make MS share these protocols, then other companies are able to make software that works better with them instead of trying to reverse engineer them, or make some kind of botch up based on the available APIs which favor MS products over others I would imagine.